On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 11:20 PM Miroslav Suchý <msuchy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dne 23. 05. 22 v 20:57 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > > However, now a days we have a number of new apps that are deployed in > > openshift and aren't using rpms, but pip or s2i or other things. > > Regarding pip applications - we have pyp2rpm and pyp2spec which can convert to rpm easily. And we have > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/g/copr/PyPI/ > > with about 70k packages. > The bigger problem is that those applications are *not* able to easily be deployed outside of Fedora infrastructure. One consequence of OpenShift based deployments is that it's become almost too easy to assume nobody else would ever want to run that code. Noggin and Bodhi both have had a number of code changes in the past couple of years that have made it increasingly difficult to use outside of Fedora deployments in their default code state. I've given up on Bodhi, but I'm still trying to get Noggin into good shape. I've been able to evaluate those issues by packaging them as RPMs, because RPM packaging forces a total decoupling of development, deployment, and configuration. None of that is true with our container based deployments. They're not discoverable, and if you can find them, they're not independently useful. Because of this, it becomes hard for community growth around these projects. -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list -- infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to infrastructure-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure