Re: planet

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On Wed, Mar 2, 2022 at 7:29 AM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hey folks. I thought I would open a discussion about fedoraplanet and
> possibly some plans for it.
>
> Right now:
>
> fedoraplanet.org runs on people02.fedoraproject.org (aka fedorapeople).
> To add a blog/rss feed you have to login there and edit your .planet
> file, then scripting pulls all those .planet files and tries to fetch
> all the feeds and then serves them up at http://fedoraplanet.org.
> It uses a app called 'venus' to do this. venus is written in very old
> python2 and very very dead upstream.
>
> We run into the following problems with it:
>
> * Sometimes it gets stuck and just stops processing until it's killed.
> * It's serving on a http site, which causes people to ask us to make it
> https, but that would just change the errors because many feeds it pulls
> are still http since they were added back before letsencrypt existed.
> * We have a handy 'website' field in our new account system, but aren't
> using it at all.
> * The .planet parsing is poor, any number of things can cause it to
> break.
>
> We have two open tickets on it:
> - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10383 (upgrade to pluto,
>   a ruby based, but maintained thing)
> - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/10490
>   ( planet not served via ssl) Which I am just going to close now.
>
> So, I can think of a number of options and would love everyone who has
> thoughts on it to chime in:
>
> 1. Do nothing. Venus "works" and .planet files are cool and retro.
>
> 2. Switch to pluto and use account system 'website' fields of
> contributors. We could likely shove it in openshift and serve it
> directly from there to avoid fedorapeople entirely.
> (This would likely break anyone who has multiple feeds in there)
>
> 3. Switch to something better/bigger. I would think (although I don't
> know) that there might be something that would not only aggregate rss
> feeds for contributors, but perhaps mastodon/twitter/whatever also.
>
> 4. Planets are old and tired, just drop the entire thing. People can
> maintain their own rss lists.

#4 here has my vote -- i personally stopped reading RSS feeds daily on
July 1, 2013. Also, not sure what value the planet provides to the community.
its a bit of a hit and miss firehose sometimes.

--ryanlerch

>
> 5. Planets are old and tired, just drop the entire thing.
> But also, get our social media people to maintain contributor /
> interesting lists. ie, the fedoraproject twitter account could maintain
> a list of 'fedora contributors' and 'fedora packagers' or whatever.
>
> 6. Switch to pluto as in 2, but also setup some curators. Have a
> 'firehose' of all feeds, but the main fedora planet would be just
> curated things that are known to be related to fedora and not off topic
> or unrelated.
>
> 6. Get someones (not it!) to take in all the
> twitter/facebook/mastodon/blog posts/rss feeds and post some kind of
> curated round up every week or something.
>
> 7. Your brilliant idea here!
>
> So, thoughts? this is not at all urgent, but we should end up doing
> something with it sometime. :)
>
> kevin
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