Re: DKIM & fedora lists

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On 03/11/2020 18:25, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 06:13:14PM +0100, Dominique Martinet wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just enabled dkim/dmarc on my domain last week, so sent my first email
>> with that setup to devel@ just earlier today and got a few "invalid dkim
>> signature" return emails...
>>
>>
>> So I was wondering how do people deal with that?
>>
>> Normally lists have two ways of handling dkim:
>>  - either they don't mangle the subject/signed headers (for me:
>> h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From).
>> In that case, just leave the original dkim header and things should just
>> work™.
>> That's what e.g. kernel lists do and worked well for me.
>>
>>  - either they DO mangle headers, often adding a [tag] to the subject
>> line; in which case the From is also updated to be the list address with
>> the original sender name (e.g. Bob <whateverlist@somewhere>) and the
>> original mail is eventually appended to the Reply-To addresses, with the
>> original dkim header stripped off.
> 
> Or add a footer, or handle mime attachments in different ways or ... any
> number of things.
> 
>> As far as I can see devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx doesn't mangle
>> anything so should fall into the first category of "doing nothing just
>> works" -- but it stripped my original dkim header, hence the failures.
> 
> It does. It adds a footer. 
> 
>> I'm pretty sure mailman can deal with this, is that on purpose? Or is it
>> just a mishap?
>> my dmarc policy says to ignore dkim failures (for now) so I could just
>> ignore this but it's a bit annoying that I had setup dmarc/dkim because
>> my mails often get treated as spam for some reason and such errors won't
>> be helping...
> 
> Mailman can detect if someone has set dmarc to reject and if so, change
> the from address to be the address from the list. This is a per list
> setting. I think I reluctantly enabled it on devel and users, I am not
> sure what other lists enable it. 
> 
> It should have worked for you, I am not sure why not... 
> 
> IMHO, setting dmarc to reject is a really bad idea if you send any
> emails from your domain that go to lists. 
> 

It may be helpful for some people, there are various sites to test your
DKIM setup

For example, this site shows you a random address, you send a message to
the address and they show you a report

https://dkimvalidator.com/

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