On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 01:01:31AM +0100, David Kirwan wrote: > > Hmm the (prometheus, grafana, alertmanager) stack itself is pretty simple I > would have said, but I agree it is certainly complex when > installed/integrated on Openshift.. (most things are needlessly complex on > Openshift tbh, and its an order of magnitude worse on Openshift 4 with > these operators added to the mix). Well, they may not be that complex... like I said, I haven't used them much, so I might be missing how they work. > It would be the obvious choice for me anyway considering this stack is > available by default on a fresh Openshift install. We could make use of > this cluster monitoring stack, especially if we're also deploying our > services on Openshift. I might throw a POC/demo together to show how "easy" > it is to get your app hooked into the Openshift cluster monitoring stack, > or the UserWorkload tech preview monitoring stack[1]. I agree it makes sense to use this for openshift apps. I am not sure at all we should use it for non openshift apps. > If we did use this stack it would add a little extra pain with regards to > monitoring storage maintenance/pruning. But maybe far less than > running/maintaining a whole separate monitoring stack outside the Openshift > cluster. There are also efficiencies to be made when developers are already > in the Openshift/Kubernetes mindset, creating an extra Service and > ServiceMonitor is a minor thing etc. Sure, but we have a lot of legacy stuff we want to monitor/review logs for too. The right answer might be to just seperate those two use cases with different solutions, but then we have 2 things to maintain. It's probibly going to take some investigation and some proof of concept working. kevin
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