On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 07:07:51AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > Everything will run in a virtual machine given that > > > enough care has been put into creating the VM. I don't think the same > > > can be said for containers. > > > > I think in todays world we should develop for containers first. > > Especially when k8s abstracts many things and provides useful > > infrastructure for application. A bit like systemd a decade ago, by > > providing useful APIs like socket-activation, watchdog, restarts, > > parallel invocations locks, applications do not have to care about > > re-implementing boring stuff over and over again. > > > > The difference is that it's actually a huge pain for people to run > containers on Kubernetes. All these things you described can be done > with systemd units in regular RPMs. In fact, for the AAA solution, I > *already* did that so that we can reuse it for the Fedora and openSUSE > deployments[1]. > > While I think it'd be valuable to figure out the container workflow > for apps deployed in containers, let's not forget all that stuff in > our infrastructure requires OpenShift, and I don't know about most of > you, but I'm fresh out of OpenShift at home to be able to do this sort > of thing. Actually, I have 5 node 3.11 at home now (3 VMs and 2 old laptops). Over the summer I'm looking at installing OKD 4.4 on laptops + 1 VM, apparently 3-node could be done with "compact clusters". https://docs.okd.io/latest/installing/installing_bare_metal/installing-bare-metal.html#installation-three-node-cluster_installing-bare-metal https://github.com/openshift/enhancements/blob/master/enhancements/compact-clusters.md But I digress… -- Tomasz Torcz 72->| 80->| tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 72->| 80->| _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list -- infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to infrastructure-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
