On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:50:47AM +0100, Stephen Coady wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 10:34, David Kirwan <dkirwan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > If we are moving towards openshift/kubernetes backed services, we should probably be sticking with containers rather than Vagrant. We can use CRC [1] (Code Ready Containers) or minikube [2] for most local dev work. > > > > The only problem with that is not everything runs in containers. For > example the new AAA service is backed by FreeIPA and that does not run > in a container. It doesn't? What about https://github.com/freeipa/freeipa-container ? > Everything will run in a virtual machine given that > enough care has been put into creating the VM. I don't think the same > can be said for containers. I think in todays world we should develop for containers first. Especially when k8s abstracts many things and provides useful infrastructure for application. A bit like systemd a decade ago, by providing useful APIs like socket-activation, watchdog, restarts, parallel invocations locks, applications do not have to care about re-implementing boring stuff over and over again. -- Tomasz Torcz 72->| 80->| tomek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 72->| 80->| _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list -- infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to infrastructure-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx