Re: Deprecating Autocloud

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On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 10:48 PM Dusty Mabe <dusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 5/1/19 10:20 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2019-04-29 at 18:57 +0530, Sinny Kumari wrote:
> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:47 PM Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:39 AM Sinny Kumari <ksinny@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 12:19 AM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Or could we move f29+ all to whatever is replacing it? (taskotron?)
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It will be nice but I am not aware of any other system in place which
> >>>> would
> >>>> replace checks performed by autocloud.
> >>>>
> >>>> (CC'ed tflink and kparal)
> >>>> Does taskotron provides capability to perform tests on Fedora cloud
> >>>> Images like booting images and other basic checks?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Theoretically it is possible using nested virt. However, Taskotron is
> >>> going away as well. The replacement is Fedora CI:
> >>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/ci/
> >>>
> >>
> >> Thanks kamil! yeah, it doesn't make sense to move to Taskotron if it is
> >> going to be deprecated as well.
> >>
> >>
> >>> I recommend to ask in the CI list:
> >>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/ci%40lists.fedoraproject.org/
> >>>
> >>> It should be possible for them to provide the infrastructure you need.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hmm, I am not very sure if we should spend time investigating and setting
> >> up alternative
> >> to autocloud unless we have usecases for long run. Fedora Atomic Host Two
> >> Week releases ends with F29 EOL.
> >
> > We could run these tests in openQA pretty easily, I think. The question
> > is, I guess, whether they will still be of value for Fedora CoreOS.
> >
> > I guess to me the real job Autocloud is doing is this: "make sure the
> > images we intend people to use to run Fedora instances in the cloud
> > basically work and can do some simple tasks people tend to do with such
> > images". If the Fedora CoreOS team already is covering this some other
> > way, or intends to cover it some other way before Fedora CoreOS becomes
> > a supported thing, then we probably don't need to preserve the
> > Autocloud tests. If this is not in scope for the Fedora CoreOS
> > team...we probably still need to do it somewhere else.
> >
> > So...has anyone asked the Fedora CoreOS team what the plans here are?
> > :)
>
> We plan to have testing at various stages of the CoreOS build and delivery
> pipeline. We definitely plan to have FCOS taken care of using the existing
> kola testing utility [1] that was in use previously for container linux.
>
> With that said, one thing that has previously been out of scope for kola is
> testing instances that aren't provisioned with ignition (i.e. they use cloud-init
> instead). Today the Fedora Cloud base images are not provisioned using ignition so
> we'll either need to consider adding ignition as an option there OR consider running
> automated tests against the Fedora Cloud base images in OpenQA (if that's possible).
>

It's all possible with OpenQA, the tests just have to be written. :)


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