On Mon, 2019-04-29 at 20:45 +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > That's a very unfortunate situation. The API change is a clear > breakage of the Update guidelines. The version bump that is done in > the patch 0.28.1 → 0.29.0 is also wrong, since this number also > describes the python API, and changes that remove names need to bump > the major number to signal backwards incompatibility. > > The least-bad solution would be to add back something in the python > API to restore compatibility. Some feedback from the dnf side whether > this is possible would be very useful. +1 to this whole thread. For the record, and just to be clear, the backwards-incompatible change here was *not* the thing we needed to fix the release-blocking upgrade bug. It just came along for the ride. DNF team's current practice seems to be to not use stable branches, but simply keep all development for libdnf and dnf in a single stream, constantly cut releases of them, and send those releases out as updates to all Fedora versions. DNF team, *this is not sustainable*. It is clearly leading to problematic violations of the Fedora packaging guidelines like this. Now DNF is in RHEL 8, you are *definitely* going to start hearing about this from RHEL stakeholders, because this is very definitely not how things work on RHEL either. You must either stop making API-breaking changes or start using stable branches so non-API-breaking fixes can be sent out to stable distros without disruptive changes. It is just not acceptable to tie needed bugfixes to API changes in this way. I also find it significant that libdnf still has, so far as I can tell, absolutely no interface documentation - https://github.com/rpm-software-management/libdnf links to "the hawkey documentation page", which is obviously wildly outdated at this point - and that this API-breaking change was not even mentioned in the libdnf release notes: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/libdnf/blob/master/docs/release_notes.rst -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list -- infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to infrastructure-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
