============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-12-05) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-12-05/infrastructure.2013-12-05-19.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:03) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:01:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010166 (anshprat, 19:03:10) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:03:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010166#c33 (anshprat, 19:03:33) * LINK: http://209.132.184.188/cnucnu/ (pingou, 19:06:30) * askbot update ready in stg, will push after freeze (nirik, 19:07:08) * askbot outstanding issues: new fedora theme and multilungual support. (nirik, 19:07:28) * LINK: http://209.132.184.188/cnucnu/project/keychain/ (pingou, 19:09:58) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/keychain and http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=keychain (nirik, 19:12:01) * LINK: http://sophie.zarb.org/ (pingou, 19:15:08) * LINK: https://github.com/tannewt/open-source-watershed/tree/live might help (pingou, 19:16:59) * nuancier work moving forward for full version. (nirik, 19:19:55) * ACTION: nirik to update fedocal for infrastructure around slips (nirik, 19:20:16) * AGREED: pingou rocks (threebean, 19:21:43) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:26:34) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:30:52) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:30:52) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/243/ edited (pingou, 19:32:53) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:38:09) Meeting ended at 19:49:14 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nirik to update fedocal for infrastructure around slips Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nirik * nirik to update fedocal for infrastructure around slips * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (83) * pingou (42) * threebean (18) * anshprat (11) * tflink (8) * abadger1999 (6) * smooge (6) * zodbot (4) * janeznemanic (4) * lmacken (2) * ianweller (1) * bitlord (1) * Xeladem (1) * misc (1) * mirek (1) * relrod (1) * puiterwijk (0) * mdomsch (0) * dgilmore (0) -- 19:00:03 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-12-05) 19:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 5 19:00:03 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:03 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:03 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:03 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:03 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 19:00:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 19:00:15 * abadger1999 here 19:00:17 * ianweller here 19:00:19 * anshprat here 19:00:29 * tflink is here 19:00:30 * pingou here 19:00:41 * relrod here 19:01:02 * mirek here 19:01:14 <nirik> morning everyone. 19:01:53 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 19:02:10 <nirik> any new folks want to introduce themselves? or apprentices have questions or comments to bring up? 19:02:20 * threebean sneaks in late 19:02:26 <nirik> as always you can also feel free to chime in later in the meeting too with questions or bring them up in open floor. 19:03:03 <nirik> alright... 19:03:08 <anshprat> nirik: threebean : need to build the release package 19:03:10 <anshprat> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010166 19:03:12 <anshprat> for askbot 19:03:20 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:03:33 <anshprat> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010166#c33 19:03:33 <nirik> anshprat: ok. I thought multilingual was still busted on it? 19:03:42 <nirik> or did we want to push this and update for that fix later? 19:03:59 <anshprat> nirik: yes, it is, I guess easier to fix that later 19:04:13 <nirik> ok, any news on that? you asked upstream? 19:04:37 <anshprat> I did, but I need to check again 19:04:47 <nirik> ok. 19:05:44 <nirik> so stg is all up and running on the new one right? 19:05:49 <anshprat> yes 19:05:56 <nirik> we may want to wait for the prod one until after f20 freeze. 19:06:03 <nirik> but I suppose we could ask for a freeze break. 19:06:23 <threebean> ryanlerch was looking to work on the fedora theme in stg. 19:06:27 <nirik> anshprat: welcome back, BTW. ;) 19:06:28 <anshprat> mm, its ok to wait, I can ask the list to check more in the staging 19:06:30 <pingou> http://209.132.184.188/cnucnu/ 19:06:32 <threebean> but we could push to prod first and then double back on the theme. 19:06:33 <anshprat> nirik: TY :) 19:06:34 <pingou> on the news side 19:06:49 <nirik> threebean: yeah, might be nice to push the theme the same time if we can... 19:06:53 * threebean nods 19:07:06 <threebean> nirik: its busted at the moment. no eta yet. 19:07:08 <nirik> #info askbot update ready in stg, will push after freeze 19:07:28 <nirik> #info askbot outstanding issues: new fedora theme and multilungual support. 19:07:56 <nirik> threebean: ok, we can see after freeze where we are? 19:08:14 <nirik> pingou: very nice! 19:08:44 <pingou> it lacks the fedmsg integration but after that it should be alpha ready 19:08:55 <nirik> so, it works with multiple distros? 19:09:05 * lmacken excited for cnucnu+fedmsg 19:09:08 <nirik> does it have to have a mapping of versions? or ? 19:09:17 <pingou> we can broadcast fedmsg msg on the Fedora bus 19:09:25 <pingou> and I hope on the debian bus as well 19:09:29 <lmacken> pingou: could/should that be the place for DOAP integration too? 19:09:34 <pingou> it has a mapping or project in place 19:09:58 <pingou> http://209.132.184.188/cnucnu/project/keychain/ 19:10:07 <pingou> you can map to as many distro as you like 19:10:16 <pingou> lmacken: that would be very cool! 19:10:37 <nirik> very nice. How does it query the distros? or thats manual? 19:10:43 <pingou> it's manual 19:10:50 <pingou> unfortunately :( 19:10:54 <pingou> maybe something for later 19:11:08 <nirik> yeah, query packages? debian at least has a packages like thing too... 19:11:35 <pingou> basically the data comes from the wiki page atm 19:11:54 <threebean> just to initialize it, right? 19:11:54 <pingou> which mean that some projects are name perl/python/php/R-* instead of * 19:12:01 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/keychain and http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=keychain 19:12:03 <pingou> they can be edited (by anyone) 19:12:33 <pingou> nirik: indeed, but then we need to make sure, somehow, that the same name refers also to the same projects 19:12:49 <nirik> yeah. could be anoying. 19:12:51 <pingou> and that's were things get a little harder on the debian world 19:13:09 * pingou needs to ask Olasd (the debian-fedmsg contact) 19:13:16 <nirik> I guess you don't actually need to know the current version really... 19:13:24 <nirik> if there's a new release, there's a new release. 19:13:28 <abadger1999> When I looked at cross distro mapping before what seemed like it would work the best was tarball name. 19:13:41 <pingou> abadger1999: nice idea 19:13:59 <pingou> nirik: yes, cnucnu might then have to be adjusted to do 19:14:32 * nirik recalls some site... just a sec. 19:14:33 <pingou> -> if there is a cnucnuweb message -> check if package is in the list of package to watch -> check version built -> if new version > version built => bz 19:14:42 <pingou> there is sophie by mirek 19:14:47 <pingou> misc* I meant 19:14:58 <threebean> pingou: can it handle upstream projects with the same name? 19:14:58 <threebean> like the mock library from the python world and the mock tool from the fedora world? 19:15:08 <pingou> http://sophie.zarb.org/ 19:15:20 <nirik> there it is: http://oswatershed.org/ 19:15:37 <pingou> threebean: name = sa.Column(sa.String(200), primary_key=True) :/ 19:15:58 <pingou> nirik: nice 19:16:29 <nirik> dunno if there's anything we could leverage with them or see how they are doing things. 19:16:59 <pingou> https://github.com/tannewt/open-source-watershed/tree/live might help 19:17:51 <nirik> cool. 19:17:57 <nirik> Any other application news? 19:18:07 <misc> pingou: by my roommate, not me :p 19:18:08 <nirik> FYI, we slipped another week for f20... so we will have another week of freeze. 19:18:32 <threebean> ok -- is there someone responsible for updated fedocal with that info? 19:18:48 <nirik> I can update it. (hopefully). 19:18:53 <pingou> you should :) 19:18:55 <nirik> unless someone else would like to. :) 19:19:05 <pingou> I worked some more on nuancier 19:19:21 <pingou> and what I have now I think it quite in line with what the design-team desires 19:19:29 <nirik> nice. 19:19:43 <pingou> nirik: has the old cloud instance for nuancier been cleared? 19:19:55 <nirik> #info nuancier work moving forward for full version. 19:20:00 <nirik> pingou: don't recall. 19:20:13 <pingou> ok, can't seem to log in on it anymore, we'll have to check 19:20:16 <nirik> #action nirik to update fedocal for infrastructure around slips 19:21:01 <pingou> I'll try to set up a dev instance of nuancier to have something to show the design team 19:21:30 <abadger1999> pingou: just want to say, you rock :-) 19:21:42 <nirik> +1 :) 19:21:43 <threebean> #agree pingou rocks 19:21:47 <pingou> abadger1999: just trying to catch up with you all :) 19:22:10 <pingou> (but thanks, you're making me blush) 19:22:39 <pingou> oh in the app news world there is also abadger1999 's work on python-fedora :) 19:23:08 <nirik> oh yeah, where are we there? 19:23:23 <abadger1999> yeah -- it's incomplete but it's a start at making something with a baseclient-like api that uses openid to login to web services. 19:23:37 <abadger1999> The openid-login part has been proven to work. 19:23:53 <pingou> \ó/ 19:23:55 <abadger1999> but now we're trying to merge that with baseclient concepts. 19:24:21 <nirik> cool. 19:26:24 <nirik> ok, moving along then. 19:26:34 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:26:41 <nirik> lets see.... 19:27:01 <nirik> been pretty quiet overall. 19:27:10 <smooge> freeze freeze freeze 19:27:19 <nirik> yeah, cold here. ;) 19:27:23 <threebean> you guys are living the freeze down in CO. ;) 19:28:05 <nirik> 9F currently 19:28:27 <threebean> hm, so I recently started running a dnssec validator plugin in firefox. its cool to see that fp.o is enabled and good. 19:28:41 <nirik> yep. ;) 19:28:48 <threebean> I noticed one weird thing though - USER.fedorapeople.org is busted with this in a way I don't understand. 19:29:11 <threebean> not sure if its a known issue or something worth looking into. 19:29:34 <nirik> hum, yeah, thats a wildcard.... 19:29:51 <nirik> perhaps something with that zone. 19:30:11 <nirik> I can take a look. 19:30:24 <nirik> anyhow, most sysadmin stuff is on low due to freeze... 19:30:33 <threebean> cool -- I'm curious to see what's up too. can you ping me when you take a look? 19:30:34 <nirik> I have lots of plans to poke ansible after freeze is over tho. ;) 19:30:38 <nirik> sure. 19:30:52 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:30:52 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:31:04 <nirik> I need to update fedocal there... ;) 19:31:13 <nirik> anything upcoming that folks would like to note or schedule? 19:31:50 <nirik> we have holidays coming up. So remember that folks might be away and don't expect speedy replies. :) 19:32:28 <nirik> I expect we will meet next week as normal, but what about the 19th? I'm sure we can skip the 26th. Not sure about the 2nd. 19:32:53 <pingou> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/243/ edited 19:32:56 <smooge> I figure Jan 6th we open for business 19:33:14 <nirik> smooge: yeah, I think many folks witll take the 2nd and 3rd off. 19:33:19 <pingou> +1 19:33:41 <smooge> I might be doing so depending on my kids school schedule 19:33:44 <pingou> I won't make it on the 19th fwiw 19:34:28 <nirik> FYI, for rh folks, the 24th to the 31st is shutdown. The 1st is a holiday too. 19:34:55 <nirik> anyhow, we can decide about the 19th and 2nd meetings next week. ;) 19:35:24 <nirik> FYI, I don't have any travel plans, so I should be around the entire time, but during shutdown I might be off playing video games or playing with database replication or something. ;) 19:35:41 <anshprat> :) 19:36:37 <nirik> also, as a heads up, next week I think I am gonna send out an email to infra list to collect big dreams for next year. ;) So, start thinking... what would you love to get done next year? 19:36:46 <pingou> FAS3 19:36:54 * nirik has a long list. ;) 19:37:08 <bitlord> \o/ 19:37:15 <Xeladem> :) 19:38:09 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:38:22 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? comments, suggestions, questions, ideas? 19:38:32 <smooge> LDAP 19:38:40 <smooge> that is all :) 19:39:44 <nirik> I don't know that we could get that done in a year. ;) 19:40:10 <janeznemanic> may I ask something though it's probably a little bit unrelated with this meeting 19:40:23 <nirik> janeznemanic: sure, fire away. 19:40:58 <tflink> network isolation of the qa automation clients 19:41:10 <janeznemanic> well I tried to change my email in fas to gmail but it seems that I can't, is that possible 19:41:11 <tflink> is one thing I'd like to get done in the near future 19:41:30 <nirik> tflink: sounds good. 19:41:40 <nirik> janeznemanic: should work. did it give you any errors? or ? 19:42:21 <smooge> tflink, what do you mean by network isolation.. how much? 19:42:24 <janeznemanic> no I just keep getting emails from trac to hotmail? 19:42:36 <threebean> ah! the trac email preference is kept outside of fas. 19:42:49 <threebean> janeznemanic: try the 'preferences' menu in the trac instance you're looking at. 19:43:04 <janeznemanic> okey thank you 19:43:37 <threebean> np :) 19:43:58 <tflink> smooge: I want to have the clients isolated to the point where they can't talk with anything that's not on that subnet (if that's the right word) 19:44:48 <tflink> similar to the current qa subnet, just locked down farther 19:45:26 <nirik> tflink: those are all guests on the same virthost right? 19:45:38 <nirik> we could just make it allocate them in a private net? 19:45:54 <tflink> nirik: for the moment, all the beaker clients are on the same virthost, yes 19:46:12 <tflink> but they need to be able to talk to the beaker server and lab controller, which are on a different virthost 19:46:30 <nirik> ok, we can try and sort it out... over in #fedora-admin? 19:47:16 <tflink> sure, that works 19:48:04 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a few minutes. 19:49:11 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! 19:49:14 <nirik> #endmeeting
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