On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, noriko wrote:
> hi,
>
> Sorry replying after closing the ticket, I was traveling Japan last two
> weeks and had no internet connection. Now I like you all involved to
> reconsider this RFR.
>
> As Jared pointed, it was clearly agreed to revisit. This offer is great
> opportunity for all translators to test new tool which has potential to
> be hosted at Fedora ground. And as Mike said, the conversation should
> start with translators, so that we will be able to come back. It is best
> to have a test instance within fp.o.
>
> Please notice that this RFR is just asking a test, not a move. As
> someone refer to the need or the cost (people power or $$), without
> testing, translators will not be able to evaluate those whether it is
> worth or not. I like you all to remind that it is not zero cost but it
> does cost running transifex for Fedora at tx.net as well, manpower of
> Infidex.
>
> I have been strong supporter of Transifex, and still am confident that
> Transifex is excellent tool for translators in some projects. However
> there is no reason to deny other tools because it was just
> developed/introduced after Transifex. Most of translators even do not
> notice this discussion. I beg you, please give us a chance and let us
> discuss ourselves before making any decision somewhere we do not know.
> Please do not squash the opportunity for us.
>
They don't notice the discussion because no one has taken it there. I'm
not sure why we're even still discussing this here since not a single
email has been sent to http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/ wrt
Zanata. It's not free for us to just hand over resources that could be
better planned. So I suggest again, start with the translators. If
someone on the infrastructure team is willing to sponsor it I'm sure
they'll speak up but it'd be a much better sell if the translation team
actually got together and said "sure, lets take a look"
-Mike
> noriko
>
>
> Ruediger Landmann さんは書きました:
> > Thanks all for the feedback and comments; some of it has been extremely
> > useful.
> >
> > I concur that it's premature to tie up Fedora resources in such a test;
> > I'll investigate other hosting avenues and reopen the discussion here
> > only if Zanata looks promising and after I have some buy-in from L10N.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Rudi
> >
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