On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 2:23 PM, David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Nalley wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: >>> > >>> >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >> > Adam Williamson wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >>> >> >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >>> >> >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >>> >> >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >>> >> >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >>> >> >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >>> >> >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >>> >> >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >>> >> >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >>> >> >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >>> >> >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >>> >> >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >>> >> >> don't know about? Thanks! >>> >> > >>> >> > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned >>> >> > before; >>> >> > >>> >> > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be >>> >> > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of >>> >> > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. >>> >> > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" >>> >> > -and things of the sort. >>> >> > >>> >> > Kind regards, >>> >> > >>> >> > Jeroen van Meeuwen >>> >> > -kanarip >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support >>> >> caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the >>> >> client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to >>> >> have a way to communicate with the calendar server. >>> >> >>> >> My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible >>> >> platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you >>> >> suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two >>> >> applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using >>> >> caldav). >>> >> >>> >> The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these >>> >> other applications and probably through an API which could include >>> >> Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a >>> >> bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as >>> >> a whole. >>> >> >>> >> As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the >>> >> features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll >>> >> probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of >>> >> you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, >>> >> feel free to visit: >>> >> >>> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) >>> >> >>> >> Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! >>> >> >>> > >>> > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. >>> > >>> > For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ >>> > >>> > I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions >>> > there are for each. >>> > >>> > -Mike >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >>> > Fedora-infrastructure-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >>> > >>> >>> As a former contributor to OGo I think it's a great project, and it >>> supports things like CAlDAV. However unless things have changed >>> recently I'd expect it to be a bear to get packaged and into Fedora. >>> Not that it should be excluded, just a heads up. That said it's really >>> email centric and I am not sure we'd want to get in that business. >>> >> >> Lets say we wanted to use features that were _not_ email storage based. >> How feasible is that? For example, if I created an appointment for you >> and me, it'd still send an email to your @fp.o email address which would >> then just be forwarded to your local MTA. >> >> -Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >> Fedora-infrastructure-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >> > > So OGo is (or was) cognizant of other users accounts - and would > create the appointment on the calendar directly rather than sending to > the users MTA. Calendar and other non-mail stuff are all stored in the > DB - while mail is almost an add-on. (In the mail-less environment it > knows about e-mail - and can send items out, but it treats local users > completely separate from e-mail. That might be ok. - esp if we did > iCAL or CalDAV. > > I do need to disclaim that I haven't kept up with OGo in quite a while > and things may have changed, but the architecture had been around for > a long time, and I don't think they would have made any dramatic > changes. > Good call on OGO, I didn't even know it did iCal or caldav stuffs. My last job was extensively with OGO, but I was just a user. It is flexible, can handle multiple appointments, scheduling with one another. If it supports ical/caldav, it could be a very viable choice as it wouldn't require the use of OGO, but it *could* be used to schedule activities. Sounds like we're narrowing our features down to a good list. I'll add OpenGroupWare onto the list. Dave, could you expand on why it might be a bear to package? Cheers, Clint _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list
