On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, David Nalley wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, Clint Savage wrote: >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jeroen van Meeuwen <kanarip@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi, guys. Uh, quick intro for those who see the redhat.com and wonder >> >> >> who I am - I'm Adam Williamson. I'm new in the Fedora QA department here >> >> >> at RH, my job is to drive community involvement in Fedora QA. I came >> >> >> over from Mandriva where I was the community manager. I'll be working >> >> >> from my home in Vancouver, Canada. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm new on the list so this may have come up before, in which case >> >> >> apologies :). Something I thought would be nice to have for QA community >> >> >> is a public calendar system where dates of events like test days can be >> >> >> published. Obviously it's silly for me personally or the QA team to take >> >> >> on the job of hosting a calendar server, but it was suggested that it >> >> >> would be a good project for the infrastructure team, and other groups >> >> >> within Fedora could probably benefit from it. Does it sound like a good >> >> >> idea? Anyone want to have a go? Or is there something already, that I >> >> >> don't know about? Thanks! >> >> > >> >> > I've not seen anything in this thread yet, so it may have been mentioned >> >> > before; >> >> > >> >> > MediaWiki has a couple of calendering plugins that will allow "days" to be >> >> > allocated; I looked into this for our meeting schedule but since none of >> >> > them include any times for appointments I found it to be useless. >> >> > Nonetheless, it could be worthwhile for allocating "Test days" and "Events" >> >> > -and things of the sort. >> >> > >> >> > Kind regards, >> >> > >> >> > Jeroen van Meeuwen >> >> > -kanarip >> >> > >> >> >> >> I think the point I'm continuing to make is that it should support >> >> caldav or something similar. The protocol defines a protocol, so the >> >> client applications themselves shouldn't matter, but we do need to >> >> have a way to communicate with the calendar server. >> >> >> >> My intention isn't to discount MediaWiki or Zikula as a possible >> >> platform for a calendaring client, but to say that the features you >> >> suggest are not what we're after here. Instead I'd say that those two >> >> applications could push/pull data from the calendar server (using >> >> caldav). >> >> >> >> The events listed in the caldav server can be manipulated by these >> >> other applications and probably through an API which could include >> >> Access Control Lists based upon FAS rights. I can see this being a >> >> bit of an undertaking, but it can really benefit the Fedora Project as >> >> a whole. >> >> >> >> As I stated in my previous email, I've got a draft up of all the >> >> features we'd like to see (it's pretty empty right now) and I'll >> >> probably go ahead and list some of this email there. But for those of >> >> you who are interested in helping me get that wiki page more complete, >> >> feel free to visit: >> >> >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Herlo/Fedora_Calendar_Project_Desired_Features_(Draft) >> >> >> >> Keep the thoughts coming, I want to see this project succeed! >> >> >> > >> > Maybe we should mature this a bit and look into full collaboration suites. >> > >> > For example http://www.opengroupware.org/ >> > >> > I'm poking around at some now, I'm not sure what license restrictions >> > there are for each. >> > >> > -Mike >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list >> > Fedora-infrastructure-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list >> > >> >> As a former contributor to OGo I think it's a great project, and it >> supports things like CAlDAV. However unless things have changed >> recently I'd expect it to be a bear to get packaged and into Fedora. >> Not that it should be excluded, just a heads up. That said it's really >> email centric and I am not sure we'd want to get in that business. >> > > Lets say we wanted to use features that were _not_ email storage based. > How feasible is that? For example, if I created an appointment for you > and me, it'd still send an email to your @fp.o email address which would > then just be forwarded to your local MTA. > > -Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list > Fedora-infrastructure-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list > So OGo is (or was) cognizant of other users accounts - and would create the appointment on the calendar directly rather than sending to the users MTA. Calendar and other non-mail stuff are all stored in the DB - while mail is almost an add-on. (In the mail-less environment it knows about e-mail - and can send items out, but it treats local users completely separate from e-mail. That might be ok. - esp if we did iCAL or CalDAV. I do need to disclaim that I haven't kept up with OGo in quite a while and things may have changed, but the architecture had been around for a long time, and I don't think they would have made any dramatic changes. _______________________________________________ Fedora-infrastructure-list mailing list Fedora-infrastructure-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list