16:04:35 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Role Call 16:04:37 < mmcgrath> who's here? 16:04:39 < skvidal> I am 16:04:45 < skvidal> one sec I'll be on the bridge 16:04:55 * ricky is here, but will probably have to go very shortly. 16:04:58 * glezos is here 16:05:19 * lmacken 16:05:19 -!- jeremy [i=katzj@nat/redhat/x-48f778bf0db0139e] has quit Remote closed the connection 16:05:19 -!- warren [i=warren@redhat/wombat/warren] has quit Remote closed the connection 16:05:21 * abadger1999 here 16:05:22 < lmacken> heh 16:05:24 < lmacken> clockwork 16:05:29 < mmcgrath> there they go. 16:05:41 < abadger1999> Some people just don't want to do an honest days work :-) 16:05:43 < mmcgrath> I know dgilmore is traveling a lot this week. 16:05:49 < frankc> Frank is listening. 16:05:59 < mmcgrath> hello frank 16:06:01 < mmcgrath> paulobanon: ping? 16:06:37 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started. 16:06:42 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 16:06:50 < mmcgrath> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority 16:06:54 < mmcgrath> We really only have the one on the list 16:07:09 < mmcgrath> and jcollie isn't around right now. 16:07:25 < mmcgrath> The lack of interest in that from the community in general leads me to believe that we'll be on CVS for a long time to come. 16:07:28 < mmcgrath> just a prediction :) 16:08:12 < mmcgrath> This will probably be a short meeting, not much happened in the last week. 16:08:17 < skvidal> I think most people don't want to hear the flame war 16:08:19 < abadger1999> heh. It's not (really) broken so don't fix it. 16:08:47 < mmcgrath> heh, thats true. 16:08:52 < mmcgrath> Ok, we'll move on to the schedule next. 16:08:56 < glezos> skvidal: what if there's no flame work and just action? 16:08:57 < lennert> ... 16:09:03 < skvidal> glezos: hahahahahahaha 16:09:05 < skvidal> glezos: that's funny 16:09:12 < skvidal> glezos: are you a comedian for your day job? :) 16:09:15 < glezos> :) 16:09:19 < ricky> Darn- I must go. 16:09:25 < mmcgrath> ricky: later ricky! 16:09:29 * ricky will read the logs in a bit :) 16:09:34 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule/ 16:09:40 < glezos> skvidal: we're infra, we can do anything :P 16:09:49 < skvidal> right-o :) 16:09:57 < mmcgrath> I might remove the VCS from the schedule since there's been little progress in it and it is already in the tickets. 16:10:11 < mmcgrath> As far as sponsorship goes we have a new member to add to the web group - glezos 16:10:14 < mmcgrath> welcome glezos. 16:10:23 -!- tibbs|h [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 16:10:24 < skvidal> yay glezos! 16:10:28 < mmcgrath> s/web group/sysadmin-web group/g 16:10:30 < glezos> mmcgrath: glad to be here. 16:10:37 -!- tibbs|h [n=tibbs@fedora/tibbs] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:10:42 < mmcgrath> glezos: have you had a chance to verify your access to bastion? 16:10:54 < glezos> mmcgrath: yes, it seems to work fine, thanks 16:11:02 -!- JSchmitt [n=s4504kr@fedora/JSchmitt] has quit "Konversation terminated!" 16:11:25 < mmcgrath> and nothing new on the SOP stuff. 16:11:39 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Corporate Sponsors 16:11:50 < mmcgrath> So there's some good news and some same old news on the sponsorship front. 16:12:02 -!- jeremy [i=katzj@nat/redhat/x-35dd6359cde2db97] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:12:06 < mmcgrath> we've been offered a half rack + BW from a colo in Germany 16:12:09 < skvidal> jeremy: you're late! 16:12:24 < skvidal> mmcgrath: cool, well done 16:12:35 < mmcgrath> The company is TeliaSonera 16:12:42 < skvidal> pretty name 16:12:45 < mmcgrath> :) 16:12:46 < mmcgrath> yeah 16:13:22 < lennert> telia is a carrier 16:13:35 < mmcgrath> and we get free remote hands from Proio.com 16:14:15 < mmcgrath> So for us its just a matter of finding some servers to put over there. 16:14:27 < mmcgrath> I'm working on that but if the IBM's or Dell's out there hear anything let me know. 16:14:33 < skvidal> mmcgrath: so we hav 21U 16:14:41 < skvidal> do we have money to buy servers w/yet? 16:14:45 < mmcgrath> skvidal: I believe so. 16:15:01 < skvidal> ie: can we just spend 9K and get a 1950 in germany? 16:15:05 < mmcgrath> We've never really had a budget so I'm working on that. We did get money for the warrantys. 16:15:09 < mmcgrath> I'm hoping so. 16:15:29 < mmcgrath> Back in July/June I created an end of the year budget that included 2 server purchases (both 1950's) 16:15:40 < mmcgrath> so, if that gets approved as I think it has, then we can purchase and ship. 16:15:54 < mmcgrath> I'd stick one 1950 in PHX and one 1950 in Germany (probably through dell.de) 16:16:01 < skvidal> sounds like a good plan 16:16:14 < mmcgrath> the req process internally isn't the most fun and people are busy and haven't been as responsive as I'd hoped. 16:16:43 < mmcgrath> So thats the latest on that, any questions? 16:17:08 < glezos> mmcgrath: any ideas on how we're going to promote this support? banners, announcement? 16:17:29 < mmcgrath> glezos: I'm glad you asked, especially since you have an eye for good looking pages and access 16:17:33 * mmcgrath grabs ticket 16:17:47 < mmcgrath> This is it here - https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/137 16:18:00 < mmcgrath> I think ricky may have done some preliminary work on this but I'm not sure how far he's gotten. 16:18:13 < mmcgrath> I've sent a few emails to the websites list (including the cattle call one). 16:18:22 < glezos> mmcgrath: I'll take a look as well 16:18:30 < mmcgrath> I asked if there were still people on the list, they said yes, and some said they weren't sure how to get started. 16:18:44 < mmcgrath> so I sent that ticket explictly out to see if anyone would make a page but I've gotten no response :( 16:18:55 < mmcgrath> glezos: I'd appreciate that. 16:18:57 < glezos> mmcgrath: what about an announcement? 16:19:08 < mmcgrath> glezos: ? what did you have in mind? 16:19:46 < glezos> mmcgrath: dunno, if we do need more support then it could act as a "thanks" and invitation for more support 16:19:55 < glezos> on FWN for example 16:20:32 < mmcgrath> we've talked about some of that stuff, I'd like to save some of the announcements for the larger donations, like if IBM gave us 200 grand in hardware or something. 16:20:46 < glezos> mmcgrath: agreed 16:20:56 < mmcgrath> so far though no ones requested it. Its hard to put a value on donation because, in theory, we might have a bunch. 16:21:13 < mmcgrath> But, since the "powered by dell" logo is the only thing we have right now I'd at least like to get the sponsorship page and such setup. 16:21:45 < glezos> mmcgrath: right 16:21:47 < mmcgrath> so anywho, thats all we've got on that for this week. 16:21:52 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 16:22:02 < lmacken> https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/141 16:22:04 < mmcgrath> Its been a pretty quiet week, I've been making lots of little changes. 16:22:14 < lmacken> are there any account system guys that could take care of that ? 16:22:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: is lockbox pretty much use-free now? 16:22:46 < mmcgrath> skvidal: pretty close, we still have infrastructure.fp.o to move off of there (its stored on the netapp but served through lockbox) 16:22:56 < mmcgrath> and we still deploy some apps via lockbox though that should be trivial to fix. 16:23:03 < skvidal> mmcgrath: what does infrastructure need? 16:23:17 < mmcgrath> just some place to mount that share elsewhere. 16:23:35 * f13 peeks in 16:23:36 < abadger1999> Are we mounting the full netapp on puppet1 now? 16:23:36 < skvidal> okay b/c when its free I can bump it to rhel5 and setup reposync 16:23:38 < mmcgrath> we need to find a different master server to attach to the netapp, right now lockbox is the only server that can rw to everything on the netapp as root. 16:23:46 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: we might be but it can't write to it. 16:23:52 < abadger1999> k 16:23:55 < mmcgrath> lmacken: we'll talk about that in a sec. 16:23:59 < mmcgrath> skvidal: what did you have in mind? 16:24:21 < skvidal> I don't need much - just a rhel5 instance with entitlements and disk space 16:24:37 < skvidal> so I can get it to sync down rhel5, rhel5-virt, and rhel5-updates 16:24:48 < mmcgrath> <nod> 16:24:58 < mmcgrath> I'll put in a ticket request for that today. 16:25:03 < skvidal> you suggested lockbox before 16:25:16 < skvidal> and I had other things going on so I was waiting for it to free up to do the reposync bit 16:25:37 < abadger1999> The hosted trac repositories sync via the netapp mount on lockbox as well. 16:25:40 < mmcgrath> lockbox would be good but A) its almost dead (EOL'd) and B) I want to stick the sync mechanism on a xen instance. 16:25:58 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: yeah, there's a few cron jobs we'll need to migrate. 16:26:20 < mmcgrath> lmacken: ok, lets talk about #141 16:26:28 < lmacken> ok 16:26:53 < mmcgrath> how are they obtained now? Which pages on the wiki? 16:27:00 < skvidal> mmcgrath: okay if there's a better choice of a box to stick a xen instance on where I can write to the netapp, I can do it there 16:27:02 < lmacken> No idea.. I don't know anything about those certs 16:27:45 -!- caillon [n=caillon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:28:35 * jeremy looks 16:28:56 < mmcgrath> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/UsingPlagueClientFaq 16:29:10 < abadger1999> lmacken: Does till just want us to host the files available from the wiki on admin.fp.o? 16:29:29 * dgilmore is here 16:29:30 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: I think the concern is that someone could go in and change those files. 16:29:44 < lmacken> yeah, in "a secure way".. so I'm assuming he wants us to host it from https://admin.fp.o/accounts 16:30:02 < jeremy> yeah, that's what it looks like 16:30:07 < jeremy> and we definitely should! 16:30:12 < lmacken> definitely 16:30:25 < mmcgrath> yep, easy fix. lmacken if you don't want to do it assign the ticket to me, I'll do it after the meeting. 16:30:52 < lmacken> sounds good. I don't know my way around the account system.. So i'll reassign :) 16:31:09 < mmcgrath> lmacken: I'm just going to stick it under /accounts/ somewhere and change the links on the wiki. 16:31:21 < mmcgrath> Does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 16:31:26 < glezos> mmcgrath: As a heads-up, I'll create a ticket now for what we need for transifex 16:31:32 < mmcgrath> glezos: k 16:31:35 < abadger1999> wishlist item: I'd like to have a ~/.fedora/ directory for bodhi/koji/etc config, sessioncookies, certs. 16:31:51 < jeremy> abadger1999: makes sense to me 16:31:56 < mmcgrath> abadger1999: we can do that. 16:32:48 < mmcgrath> Ok, anything else? If not I'll close the meeting in 30 16:33:16 < mmcgrath> 10 16:33:21 < skvidal> thanks mmcgrath 16:33:29 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End 16:33:46 < mmcgrath> thanks for coming guys. 16:33:48 -!- frankc [i=824c405d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-c083a3ac2d3221c1] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:33:50 < mmcgrath> skvidal: any time :) 16:34:16 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 16:35:05 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: you will need to co-ordinate the change so that fedora-packager-setup.sh gets the certs from the new location 16:35:39 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: where is the canonical source for fedora-packager-setup.sh 16:35:43 < dgilmore> koji 16:35:50 < dgilmore> its in the koji package 16:36:38 * dgilmore has been meaning to do up a fedora-maintainer package that has it and pulls in koji/plague/mock etc so someone can easily get a environment up 16:36:40 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: can do, I'll file a bug. 16:39:47 -!- halfline_ is now known as halfline 16:39:56 < f13> dgilmore: do it as a comps group instead. 16:40:09 < f13> dgilmore: can still do 'yum groupinstall fedora-dev-kit' 16:40:16 < f13> and can select it at install time, or graphically from pirut 16:40:23 < f13> (and can be easily included in spins) 16:41:40 < dgilmore> f13: no because we want a place to put scripts etc 16:42:24 < f13> sure, so you can have a package that does that, but also a comps group that includes the koji package, your package, whatever other tools we pick and choose 16:42:26 < dgilmore> f13: fedora-packager-setup.sh does not really belong in koji. 16:42:36 < f13> and we make those defaults, but not mandatory so that at install time you can adjust. 16:42:41 < f13> dgilmore: I don't disagree 16:42:42 < dgilmore> sure that could be done 16:42:57 < f13> I just don't want you to do a 'metapackage' with unnecessary Requires. 16:43:57 < dgilmore> we can make that work 16:44:10 < dgilmore> I should set aside time and just do it
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