On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 16:06 -0400, Michael DeHaan wrote: > seth vidal wrote: > > So I was wondering if it might be possible to reverse the model a bit. > > Why not make it so our buildsys and related pieces can easily pull from > > upstream's scm's. > > This seems to be the best way to take advantage of distributed SCM's to > me, and it allows for having one less resource to manage (i.e. Fedora > CVS). Right now, I find Fedora CVS a bit annoying as, well, it means > using yet-another-version control repository -- and lots of seperate > checkins when I want to push content to 3 seperate repos. > > However it does rely on the accessibility of those upstream repos. > Shouldn't be a major issue. If it's down, no updates. but things can go away 'forever' and we still want them around. It seems like no matter which way I turn this around in my head we end up having to have a complete copy of everything in fedora's pkg vcs to reliably do what we need to do. Not to mention the issues of firewalls and the buildsys talking to hosts in $not_okay_countries. In short, we have to have everything local otherwise we'll be exchanging one set of problems for larger, more intractable ones. (ie: legal ones and general confusion-of-location) > > Branching is one way to tackle this, though I'd really prefer tags. > > For each release, the user could log in and specify what tag to build > from where. > That way I could build the same arbitrary tag identically for FC-6, > FC-7, and devel ... if I want. > > Which, being upstream and relatively not-caring about the differences > between those distros as my source repository already takes care of > that, that's usually what I want. > > Seems like this could be very slow for the build system, though. and dangerous and possibly against 'the rules'. > Alternatively, I'd like the same features and be able to push my > repository to the Fedora server. Either way, something more flexible > and quicker to use would be > welcome. sounds like push down from upstream will be about the only thing we'll be able to do w/o getting into a bunch of other issues. -sv