For discussion once things settle down after the release. It seems hammer3 is very sick. I have logged into its console and tried to restart sshd which resulted in root@hammer3 ~]# /etc/init.d/sshd restart Stopping sshd: [FAILED] Starting sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd: line 100: 4550 Floating point exception$SSHD $OPTIONS [FAILED] on a reboot quite a few of the services failed with Floating point exception's most things on hammer3 don't work. I could try a rebuild as vi works. Or we need to look at replacing it. thoughts? ideas? comments? -- Dennis Gilmore, RHCE Proud Australian