Hey all, Here's the log from yesterday's meeting in case you missed it... Thanks to everyone who came! Best, -- Elliot
Jul 06 16:02:52 <mmcgrath> as always: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule is on the todo (damn it got big!) Jul 06 16:03:05 <mmcgrath> Who's here today? Jul 06 16:03:05 <mmcgrath> I am Jul 06 16:03:15 * lmacken raises his hand Jul 06 16:03:16 <abompard> yup Jul 06 16:03:22 <lyz|wrk> here Jul 06 16:03:25 <abadger1999> present Jul 06 16:03:46 <jcmoore> jcmoore==tgrman Jul 06 16:03:48 <mmcgrath> is PasqualMilvaques here? (sorry, I don't know his nic) Jul 06 16:04:36 * warren here Jul 06 16:04:38 <mmcgrath> guess not, So we'll skip item 1 for now "Step 1: Create homepage for admin.fedoraproject.org" Jul 06 16:04:52 <mmcgrath> Number 2, how are the systems upgrades going? Jul 06 16:05:21 <mmcgrath> looks like we're missing a few people today Jul 06 16:05:23 --- [jcmoore] (n=jcmoore@unaffiliated/tgrman) : Curt Moore Jul 06 16:05:23 --- [jcmoore] +#freenode-social #rhel #asterisk-bugs #centos #fedora-admin #asterisk-dev #asterisk Jul 06 16:05:23 --- [jcmoore] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ Jul 06 16:05:23 --- [jcmoore] is identified to services Jul 06 16:05:23 --- [jcmoore] End of WHOIS list. Jul 06 16:05:26 <Sopwith> iwolf is probably around Jul 06 16:05:35 <Sopwith> and jcmoore was wanting to help with the db upgrade (Curt, are you here?) Jul 06 16:05:49 <jcmoore> Yes, jcmoore==tgrman Jul 06 16:05:52 <mmcgrath> iwolf: ping Jul 06 16:05:55 --- tgrman :No such nick/channel Jul 06 16:06:22 <jcmoore> iWolf and I have been corresponding, still planning on doing it "soon" Jul 06 16:06:50 <mmcgrath> Thats good. Have anything to report besides soon? We can always go back to it. Jul 06 16:07:06 <Sopwith> jcmoore: Any bottlenecks besides finding the time for the actual switchover? Jul 06 16:07:34 <jcmoore> no, i think the plan is the same as the one I posted to the list. Just need to find the time. Jul 06 16:08:20 <mmcgrath> lmacken: how's the firewall stuff going? Jul 06 16:08:29 <lmacken> So yeah. I just imported the pyroman code + a basic profile for our infrastruct Jul 06 16:08:32 <lmacken> ure systems in to cvs (cvs-int:/cvs/fedora/pyroman). This is not 100% done yet though, it still needs to be configured to allow traffic to any services, but th Jul 06 16:08:35 <lmacken> e more eyes we have on this -- the better. Jul 06 16:08:43 <lmacken> damn irssi Jul 06 16:08:59 <lmacken> you should be able to check it out on any machine, and run ./pyroman --dump to spit out all of the chains Jul 06 16:09:12 <lmacken> so feel free to test, and hack on it. Jul 06 16:09:13 <mmcgrath> awesome. Jul 06 16:09:20 <lmacken> i'll drop a line to infrastructure-list tonight with all of the details Jul 06 16:09:27 <abompard> great, I'll definately have a look at it Jul 06 16:09:31 <lmacken> excellent :) Jul 06 16:09:33 <mmcgrath> it'll be good to get that up and going. Jul 06 16:09:53 <mmcgrath> Next item then, turbo gears. Jul 06 16:10:10 <mmcgrath> Who all is working on that and whats the status? Jul 06 16:10:15 <lmacken> ok Jul 06 16:10:28 <lmacken> I bumped TurboGears in FC-5 and rawhide today up to 0.8.9 Jul 06 16:10:47 <lmacken> there is still an open bug to bump the rawhide version to the latest alpha, which is blocked on a python-ruledispatch review request Jul 06 16:11:07 <lmacken> so, the latest stable version (0.8.9) went through our buildsystem a couple of hours ago, and should be available Jul 06 16:11:43 <lmacken> i'll work on pushing python-ruledispatch through this weekend Jul 06 16:11:49 <lmacken> so we can have 0.9a5 in devel Jul 06 16:12:01 * iWolf wanders back in.... Jul 06 16:12:09 <mmcgrath> thats good. Just so everyone knows could you go back over what we're going to be using TurboGears for? Jul 06 16:12:14 <mmcgrath> whats up iWolf! Jul 06 16:12:29 <iWolf> mmcgrath: not much! Sorry I was pulled away. Jul 06 16:12:38 <lmacken> mmcgrath: i was told it is going to be used for the account system rewrite, and the extras database Jul 06 16:13:11 <lmacken> and probably any other web apps we need to quickly crank out in the future Jul 06 16:13:15 <mmcgrath> got'cha Jul 06 16:13:28 <lmacken> but ignacio has been MIA, so we needed to whip the package into shape Jul 06 16:13:49 <mmcgrath> k. Jul 06 16:13:57 <mmcgrath> iWolf: how's the documentation/backup stuff going? Jul 06 16:14:11 <mmcgrath> dgilmore is in on that too Jul 06 16:14:30 <iWolf> mmcgrath: I have the dist-conf up there, current backups (with a link to the pros and cons dgilmore has up). Jul 06 16:14:50 <iWolf> I still need to throw some more info about fedora-config on there. Jul 06 16:15:13 <mmcgrath> Yeah Jul 06 16:15:35 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: how's the backup stuff coming? I've seen the wiki. Jul 06 16:16:50 <mmcgrath> we'll come back to that. Jul 06 16:17:07 <mmcgrath> Its probably time I move nagios and OTRS to the 'installed' queue Jul 06 16:17:19 <mmcgrath> we had a ticket master last week but I don't think he's here. Jul 06 16:17:24 <mmcgrath> I'll post to the list about that. Jul 06 16:17:47 <mmcgrath> next item Legacy CVS. I installed that late last night. Still waiting to hear back from f13 if its to his needs. Jul 06 16:17:54 <mmcgrath> and the free servers. Jul 06 16:18:04 <mmcgrath> at one point in time we had no use for them. What are the thoughts now sopwith? Jul 06 16:18:48 <iWolf> mmcgrath: I like the idea of another db server, especially since jcmoore has come experience in that realm. Jul 06 16:18:56 <Sopwith> asdf Jul 06 16:18:58 <Sopwith> argh Jul 06 16:19:05 <iWolf> mmcgrath: It would help eliminate one of our few SPOF. Jul 06 16:19:22 <Sopwith> So I still don't understand the need for a Legacy server separate from the existing build system Jul 06 16:19:34 <mmcgrath> Me either, that was f13's call. Jul 06 16:19:37 <lmacken> f13: ping ? Jul 06 16:19:56 <f13> lmacken: pong Jul 06 16:20:16 <lmacken> f13: just trying to get your attention ;) Jul 06 16:20:31 <mmcgrath> we're talking about the free servers. Jul 06 16:20:36 <f13> so there was concern when I first brought up LEgacy that it should run its own plague instance but could use existing builders perhaps Jul 06 16:21:02 * rordway is here Jul 06 16:21:06 <f13> part of that concern was permissions, where to get CVS from, where to send the packages, whats in teh buildroots, etc... Jul 06 16:21:08 * rordway just got back from vacation Jul 06 16:21:15 <mmcgrath> rordway: our ticket master. We'll go back to that in a sec. Jul 06 16:22:39 <lmacken> are we will contemplating getting this new server ? or is it a done deal ? Jul 06 16:23:11 <Sopwith> rordway! Jul 06 16:23:26 <rordway> sorry I'm late, I've been catching up and fixing servers that broke while I was gone :-( Jul 06 16:23:35 <mmcgrath> lmacken: they're a done deal if we want them. But A) do we need them B) do we have space for them? Jul 06 16:23:46 <mmcgrath> no sense in maintaining servers we don't need. Jul 06 16:24:55 <lmacken> true Jul 06 16:25:10 <rordway> Sopwith: greetings Jul 06 16:25:34 <mmcgrath> The way I understand it we have to decide asap or they're just gone. Jul 06 16:25:41 <rordway> I got a few minutes to poke at the metrics code. I may be able to do some of the back-end data gathering stuff, but I'm not much of an interfaces person :-) Jul 06 16:26:16 <Sopwith> rordway: OK. Data gathering is where you can get the most improvement with the least effort at the moment - the current UI is basically there, even if it is awful. Jul 06 16:26:20 <f13> mmcgrath: with as much difference as Legacy has initially, it seems we probably do need our own server to start with. Jul 06 16:26:29 <f13> mmcgrath: at a later time, the server could be repurposed Jul 06 16:26:37 <Sopwith> mmcgrath: I should call Stacy right now to find out if we have rack space. Jul 06 16:26:48 <f13> its awful overkill for what we need, but at least we get the server. Jul 06 16:26:56 <lmacken> we definitely can put it to use Jul 06 16:27:10 <lmacken> especially when the update system becomes external Jul 06 16:27:16 <Sopwith> Someone want to be in charge of spending Dell's money? Jul 06 16:27:36 <rordway> Sopwith: cool, is there a TODO list of data sources? Jul 06 16:27:39 <lmacken> well, do we want it in rdu or westford ? Jul 06 16:27:43 <lmacken> or elsewhere Jul 06 16:28:03 <mmcgrath> Sopwith: buhhhh Jul 06 16:28:09 <Sopwith> lmacken: the PHX colo, most likely...? Jul 06 16:28:13 <mmcgrath> oh, these servers could go wherever. The last ones went to Duke. Jul 06 16:28:15 <Sopwith> Or Seth could host it I suppose Jul 06 16:28:38 <Sopwith> Someone should just order them and we can figure out the hosting later. Jul 06 16:28:49 <Sopwith> If nothing else they can sit in wwoods cube running the Fedora test grid... Jul 06 16:28:49 <lmacken> agreed Jul 06 16:28:49 <rordway> Sopwith: I could see about hosting at OSU OSL Jul 06 16:29:07 <f13> PHX probably best, near where the builders are Jul 06 16:29:19 <Sopwith> So, who wants to take care of the details of spending Dell's money? :) Jul 06 16:29:21 <lmacken> out of curiosity, who is in PHX that managages those machines ? Jul 06 16:29:30 <f13> because Legacy could use it as a plague host as well as a staging box for pushing updates. Jul 06 16:29:55 <mmcgrath> Sopwith: send me the details. I'll take it. Jul 06 16:29:58 <Sopwith> lmacken: Stacy Brandenberg manages the colo as a whole. Jul 06 16:30:21 <Sopwith> mmcgrath: The info was in Matt Domsch's post on fedora-infrastructure-list - beyond that, it's mostly an issue of deciding on the details. Jul 06 16:30:37 --- [nate] (n=nate@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) : gaim Jul 06 16:30:37 --- [nate] #nagios #unisog-ot Jul 06 16:30:37 --- [nate] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ Jul 06 16:30:37 --- [nate] End of WHOIS list. Jul 06 16:32:13 <Sopwith> e.g. I'm not sure what DRAC or rackmount hardware we need, and I didn't like the idea of having only 3 big disks... Jul 06 16:32:19 <mmcgrath> oh, got'cha. Jul 06 16:32:20 <iWolf> Sopwith: I have an email from Stacy (sent to the Sysadmin list) saying Fedora has 20U left. Jul 06 16:32:24 <mmcgrath> I'll take a look then Jul 06 16:32:31 <Sopwith> iwolf: Oh cool Jul 06 16:32:49 <mmcgrath> In that case we're probably good then... Jul 06 16:32:54 <iWolf> Sopwith: He sent it on 5/27 if you end up checking the archives. Jul 06 16:33:08 <Sopwith> iwolf: OK, we're fine then. Jul 06 16:33:48 <mmcgrath> anyone know how the xfer script is going? Jul 06 16:34:02 * Sopwith looks Jul 06 16:34:08 <mmcgrath> j8sun isn't around so I'm not sure.. Jul 06 16:34:18 <Sopwith> Come to think of it, I haven't been getting those e-mails, so at least the rerouting part worked Jul 06 16:34:40 <Sopwith> woohoo, yup it's working Jul 06 16:34:45 <Sopwith> bastion:/var/xferlogarchive Jul 06 16:34:48 <mmcgrath> well there you go Jul 06 16:35:38 <mmcgrath> That reminds me, skvidal gave me a script that basically can be run once an hour to test our mirrors. Jul 06 16:35:47 <mmcgrath> Its better than nothing and would work until we find a permant solution. Jul 06 16:36:43 <mmcgrath> Forwarding to the list now... Jul 06 16:36:51 <Sopwith> cool Jul 06 16:37:29 <mmcgrath> It needs a place in CVS for the time being so seth can make changes to it. Its rough but should work. Jul 06 16:37:54 <mmcgrath> rordway: how's the metrics stuff going? Jul 06 16:39:41 <rordway> mmcgrath: took a look at the code over the weekend, I told Sopwith I think I could do some of the back-end data gathering, but I'm not much of an interface person Jul 06 16:39:58 <mmcgrath> got'cha, I'm not either. Jul 06 16:40:11 <mmcgrath> we'll wait till you've had a bit more time to look over it. Jul 06 16:40:16 <rordway> k Jul 06 16:40:33 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything on mirror management? j8sun's gone. Jul 06 16:40:47 <Sopwith> Damian was looking at it a bit as well Jul 06 16:40:57 <mmcgrath> he's gone too :-D Jul 06 16:41:03 <lmacken> hmm.. what is this blob of code that just popped up on infra-list ? Jul 06 16:41:08 <Sopwith> He e-mailed me today asking about some details of the hardware tracker, sounds like he should be back next week or so Jul 06 16:41:31 <lmacken> looks like seth started writing some code Jul 06 16:41:43 <mmcgrath> its kind of a mirror monitoring script Jul 06 16:42:09 <mmcgrath> or a yum plugin or something :-D Jul 06 16:42:15 <mmcgrath> I haven't had a whole lot of time to look at it myself Jul 06 16:42:41 <lmacken> it looks like it generates a 'good' mirrorlist Jul 06 16:43:00 <mmcgrath> yeah, we'll stick it in cron. Jul 06 16:43:05 <lmacken> we could toss it into cvs/svn and start building our 'mirror management system' around it Jul 06 16:43:05 --> skvidal (n=skvidal@fedora/skvidal) has joined #fedora-admin Jul 06 16:43:06 <mmcgrath> he's on his way in. Jul 06 16:43:07 <skvidal> hi Jul 06 16:43:08 <mmcgrath> welcome skvidal Jul 06 16:43:33 <skvidal> I was just implementing using python and some code from yum something similar to what the centos scripts were doing Jul 06 16:43:39 <skvidal> what I haven't done is this: Jul 06 16:43:52 <skvidal> 1. no db use - I'm just writing out flat files and then returning them based on geoip Jul 06 16:44:04 <skvidal> 2. no special marking of how often a mirror is out of sync Jul 06 16:44:11 <skvidal> so there are all sorts of optimizations that can go on Jul 06 16:44:18 <daMaestro> awesome Jul 06 16:44:32 <-- tibbs has quit (Remote closed the connection) Jul 06 16:44:33 <skvidal> I was just playing around while away and thought I'd mess with this problem to see how hard it would be with yum modules Jul 06 16:44:56 <skvidal> it's really quite simple code, actually. Jul 06 16:45:05 <skvidal> I'll send a new version some time tonight when I'm finished playing around Jul 06 16:45:34 <skvidal> I'd like to get a config file working properly and have a proof of functionality for the geoip stuff - I know it works - just need it to be testable :) Jul 06 16:46:02 <skvidal> anyway - that's all that's going on Jul 06 16:46:04 <mmcgrath> I'll stick it in onw of the repos soon. Jul 06 16:46:06 <skvidal> I'm not wed to this code or the idea Jul 06 16:46:21 <mmcgrath> but its here and better then what we currently have :-D Jul 06 16:46:23 <skvidal> I just wanted to do something different from what I was doing at the moment Jul 06 16:46:41 <skvidal> so if anyone wants to say 'boy that's stupid' I won't be offended :) Jul 06 16:46:45 <mmcgrath> and this script fully supports ipv6 right? Jul 06 16:46:47 <mmcgrath> ;-) Jul 06 16:47:40 <skvidal> hahahahahah Jul 06 16:47:43 <lmacken> heheh Jul 06 16:47:53 <skvidal> I dunno if the geoip stuff does or not, to be honest Jul 06 16:48:10 <mmcgrath> well we'll let it slip for now. Jul 06 16:48:20 --> smooge (n=smooge@pdpc/supporter/bronze/smooge) has joined #fedora-admin Jul 06 16:48:21 <mmcgrath> Thanks skvidal. Jul 06 16:48:36 <mmcgrath> the next item on the list is the hardware reporting tool. Jul 06 16:48:39 <mmcgrath> any idea whats going on with that. Jul 06 16:49:03 <mmcgrath> Damian's not here so we'll skip that for now Jul 06 16:49:51 <mmcgrath> Since its getting late, does anyone have anything to add to rhlinux.redhat.com migration or Translator's compendium? If not we'll move to the accounting system Jul 06 16:50:29 <Sopwith> nope, nothing with rhlinux Jul 06 16:51:06 <mmcgrath> lyz|work: any progress on the requirements gathering? Jul 06 16:51:25 <lyz|wrk> you guys got the email today? Jul 06 16:51:34 <lyz|wrk> I will update the wiki page when I get home Jul 06 16:52:07 <mmcgrath> I must have missed it. K. Jul 06 16:52:28 <lyz|wrk> it was yesterday sorry Jul 06 16:52:37 <mmcgrath> Anyone have anything to add? abompard you've been pretty quiet. Jul 06 16:52:55 <Sopwith> lyz: There were a bunch of replies Jul 06 16:53:01 <abompard> no, nothing to say at the moment Jul 06 16:53:09 <lyz|wrk> Sopwith, yeah it went well Jul 06 16:53:14 <mmcgrath> I see it now. Jul 06 16:53:26 <mmcgrath> that one got put into a special folder :-D big discussion Jul 06 16:54:37 <mmcgrath> I see the account system as being our biggest project at the moment. Should we put together an assigned team for it? Jul 06 16:55:02 <Sopwith> Hmm, don't see the need to get too formal. As long as someone persists in pushing the project, it should be good Jul 06 16:55:08 <rordway> mmcgrath: just read the message about Cacti, cool! should take a look at NPC, a Nagios Plugin for Cacti which lets you integrate the two Jul 06 16:55:48 <abompard> I'll help with the account system, I'm learning Turbogears Jul 06 16:56:05 <daMaestro> i'd like to help Jul 06 16:56:27 <abompard> unfortunately I've been drowning in work this week, I hope I'll move faster next week Jul 06 16:56:37 --- [daMaestro] (n=jon@fedora/damaestro) : Jon Jul 06 16:56:37 --- [daMaestro] #fedora-admin #Fedora #centos #Fedora-Websites #fedora-unity #fedora-selinux #fedora-search #fedora-devel #apache Jul 06 16:56:37 --- [daMaestro] irc.freenode.net :http://freenode.net/ Jul 06 16:56:37 --- [daMaestro] is identified to services Jul 06 16:56:37 --- [damaestro] End of WHOIS list. Jul 06 16:56:40 <mmcgrath> rordway: I've seen some of those before. Send me the link mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I'll take a look. Jul 06 16:57:03 <rordway> mmcgrath: will do Jul 06 16:57:06 <Sopwith> damaestro: Is this your first time here? Welcome... Jul 06 16:57:16 <daMaestro> Sopwith, yes.. and thanks Jul 06 16:58:06 <lyz|wrk> gotta run guys Jul 06 16:58:16 <lyz|wrk> be around later Jul 06 16:58:16 <Sopwith> later lyz, thanks again Jul 06 16:58:26 <lyz|wrk> welcome :) Jul 06 16:58:30 <-- lyz|wrk has quit ("Leaving") Jul 06 16:59:44 <mmcgrath> oh, and for those that havne't seen it, I have SVN up and running. Jul 06 16:59:51 <-- rdieter has quit ("Konversation terminated!") Jul 06 16:59:53 <mmcgrath> fedora extras 5 is currently in there. Jul 06 17:00:07 <mmcgrath> play with it, send acl requests my way. Jul 06 17:00:23 <mmcgrath> other than that we're at the 1 hour mark. Does anyone have anything else they'd like to add? Jul 06 17:00:33 <daMaestro> what is going on with the accounts system? Jul 06 17:00:49 <rordway> be back in a sec, phone call Jul 06 17:00:50 <daMaestro> what is going on with zope and plone for the new site? PAS? Jul 06 17:00:54 <mmcgrath> DaMaestro: are you on the fedora-infrastructure-list ? Jul 06 17:00:59 <daMaestro> i am not. Jul 06 17:01:17 <mmcgrath> zope and plone I don't know about. Aren't we waiting for abompard on those? (I might have made that up) Jul 06 17:01:27 <Sopwith> nman64 is the main web dude Jul 06 17:01:30 <abompard> mmcgrath: you made that up :) Jul 06 17:01:32 <mmcgrath> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-infrastructure-list Jul 06 17:01:33 <daMaestro> abompard, did you get my mail? Jul 06 17:01:41 <iWolf> I am headed out guys... As usual I will catch up via the logs for the after meeting chat! Later! Jul 06 17:01:46 <mmcgrath> later iWolf. Jul 06 17:01:55 <daMaestro> mmcgrath, thanks.. i will get signed up now Jul 06 17:02:09 <abompard> daMaestro: yes, I need to update zope and plone, I'll do it asap Jul 06 17:02:09 <mmcgrath> daMastro: we currently have an accounts thread going on that list "Account system updates" Jul 06 17:02:29 <abadger1999> daMaestro: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-infrastructure-list/2006-July/msg00009.html Jul 06 17:02:33 <abadger1999> (The thread) Jul 06 17:03:28 <abompard> Are we (sysadmins) concerned by to move to Zope/Plone, or is it purely the websites group concern ? Jul 06 17:03:32 <daMaestro> abompard, you are welcome to change the plone install location to the software_home.. it makes more sense to me now Jul 06 17:03:49 <mmcgrath> I think its a functional thing. I'm not really sure what all they want exactly. Jul 06 17:03:51 <abompard> daMaestro: yes, that's what I'll do Jul 06 17:04:00 <mmcgrath> daMaestro: have you been working with nman64 on this? Jul 06 17:04:34 <daMaestro> i should be.. but not directly Jul 06 17:04:45 <daMaestro> i pretty much take care of the fedora unity plone sites and servers Jul 06 17:05:03 <mmcgrath> Make sure to get him involved with all of this. He's the web guy around here. Jul 06 17:05:04 <daMaestro> so i have some time under my belt with managing ldap and plone Jul 06 17:05:08 <daMaestro> ok Jul 06 17:05:23 <daMaestro> yeah.. he listens to my blab in the -unity channel Jul 06 17:05:39 <mmcgrath> I once bolded my name in my wiki page and he killed my family with a spoon! Jul 06 17:06:11 <rordway> ouch Jul 06 17:06:13 <abompard> mmcgrath: rotf Jul 06 17:06:37 <daMaestro> mmcgrath, but plone PAS is pretty sweet.. would work well Jul 06 17:06:51 <daMaestro> still needs a little touch up with the patches to LDAPMultiPlugins Jul 06 17:06:55 <daMaestro> but I am working on it Jul 06 17:08:38 <mmcgrath> solid Jul 06 17:08:54 <mmcgrath> Anyone else have anything to bring up? Jul 06 17:09:08 <skvidal> one thing Jul 06 17:09:23 <skvidal> does anyone other than me think mmcgrath is doing some great stuff here? Jul 06 17:09:37 <skvidal> it seems like everytime I turn around he's taken care of another big chunk of stuff Jul 06 17:09:43 <skvidal> so, just for the record - mmcgrath you rock Jul 06 17:10:01 <mmcgrath> hahahah awww, thanks. Jul 06 17:10:31 <skvidal> thank you! Jul 06 17:10:38 * abompard agrees Jul 06 17:10:52 <mmcgrath> I do what I can. Jul 06 17:10:55 <Sopwith> three cheers :) Jul 06 17:10:56 --- You are no longer marked as being away Jul 06 17:11:03 * skvidal nows goes back to my regular sarcasm and cynicism Jul 06 17:11:16 <mmcgrath> hahah. Jul 06 17:11:38 <mmcgrath> I'm still waiting for my pay checks and backpay.. Sopwith said they're on the way :-D Jul 06 17:11:58 <Sopwith> haha Jul 06 17:12:24 <abompard> ok guys, later on the list Jul 06 17:13:03 <mmcgrath> alrighty, anything else? We'll close the meeting in 30. Jul 06 17:13:11 <rordway> skvidal: talked to Corey Shields at OSU OSL, he says if we need any space to give him a ping Jul 06 17:13:15 <skvidal> mmcgrath: some of us make really great references - isn't that a good payback? :) Jul 06 17:13:21 <skvidal> rordway: okie doke Jul 06 17:13:28 <mmcgrath> skvidal: its awesome payback :-D Jul 06 17:14:42 <rordway> skvidal: cshields@xxxxxxxxxx he says you might still think he's at IU Jul 06 17:14:42 <-- abompard has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) Jul 06 17:14:48 <skvidal> rordway: :) Jul 06 17:15:20 <mmcgrath> alrighty guys, meeting ends.
