#42: Fedora 22 i18n test day ------------------+----------------------- Reporter: tagoh | Owner: tagoh Type: task | Status: assigned Priority: major | Resolution: Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ------------------+----------------------- Comment (by pravins): Next time such activity we will do on #fedora-meeting and may be will create specific page for tracking discussion. Till now keeping here for log. <pravins> hi anish_ paragan juhp tagoh_ epico mfabian_ smaitra lijli fujiwarat ueno <smaitra> hi <anish_> Hi <paragan> hi <epico> hi <pravins> w.r.t https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/i18n/2015-February/001857.html <tagoh_> hi <pravins> we planned last time to gather today for an hour say for planning to make our i18n test day better well managed. <lijli> cool <pravins> we are going to use testday app first time in this testday. <juhp> I like https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/2263/ <pravins> lijli: juhp nice :) <pravins> detailed information regarding test day management is given on Very well detailed information <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management <pravins> but going through it might take time <pravins> tagoh_ is already leading this activity and done most of the things. <pravins> Test day event is happening on 19th March 2015. <pravins> I18n test day page is available on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2015-03-19_i18n <pravins> tagoh_: can you guide us how to create new test case for testapp? and what are the available test cases for cleanup. <pravins> Agenda for activity is: <tagoh_> well, no big changes if we just wanted to update. if planning to add new one or drop the unnecessary test cases, we need to modify the metadata. <tagoh_> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/TestdayApp/F22 <tagoh_> TestdayApp generates the result page against the metadata wiki. the above looks like http://testdays.qa.fedoraproject.org/testdays/show_event?event_id=23 <pravins> nice. <pravins> tagoh_: we might need to add testcases for F22 proposed Changes, right? <tagoh_> pravins: if we want to test them yes <pravins> yes <pravins> anish_: paragan mfabian_ and me need to add testcases for proposed changes :) <pravins> so agenda for today meetup is. <fujiwarat> hi <pravins> 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/TestdayApp/F22 go through test case of your interest. <tagoh_> once it's done, add a link to the metadata. <pravins> 2. Check it if is correct, if not please fix it. <pravins> tagoh_: aha, i thought it happens automatically :) <pravins> sure. <pravins> hi fujiwarat :) <pravins> 3. Add missing test case (Change proposal if any) and add link in metadata. <pravins> thank you tagoh_ for explaining it. :) <pravins> if any doubts or need further elaboration please ask. * ChanServ gives channel operator status to juhp * pravins starting going through testcases. <pravins> i should first add test case for my change proposal. * juhp has changed the topic to: F22 I18n testcase improvement [Fedora Internationalization https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N | translators' channel is #fedora-l10n | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/report/1 | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-09-02_i18n | i18n wiki clean- up https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticke <tagoh_> pravins: there are nothing they do automatically actually. we need to update the result page with the updated metadata url by the hand. <pravins> lijli: smaitra do help us with your QE expertise. :) <pravins> tagoh_: sure. <smaitra> pravins, sure <tagoh_> it is required if we add/remove test cases from the metadata. no need to update if we modify a test case in the test cases of course. <smaitra> pravins, just a query, how extensive and in depth testing is recommended? asking, because, rendering test case steps mentioned are generic. * juhp sets mode -t #fedora-i18n <fujiwarat> Do we use fedcal instead of zimbra? <pravins> smaitra: good to improve it if possible. <pravins> fujiwarat: FedCal is for wider Fedora community. <smaitra> I will modify a bit, with as much as specific and targeted area of test coverage. <tagoh_> smaitra: thanks <fujiwarat> ok, I see. I didn't realize fedora-meeting is not used. <pravins> fujiwarat: apologies for confusion, from next time onwards we will use #fedora-meeting for specific activities as well. :) <mfabian_> it confused me a bit as well. * mfabian_ is now known as mfabian <fujiwarat> oh :). <juhp> the energy is slightly more relaxed here :) * pravins feel other way ;) <juhp> ok <juhp> anyway yeah probably having meetbot is nice <pravins> agree, its good for log. <juhp> erm, so any more actions? <tagoh_> BTW I intentionally dropped all of references in nice-to-test. maybe good to reset it and rebuild the references which one would be good to have a testing <pravins> tagoh_: good. <pravins> juhp: i remember you mentioned check regression on Anaconda input selection <pravins> and also gnome-initial-setup on input sources selection. <pravins> tagoh_: we are using Workstation for testing? <juhp> pravins, ah yeah installation testing would be good too - something we have not formalized in the past <tagoh_> good question - if there are any specific packages in variants, maybe good to have some categories for that * pravins understanding how it is difficult to write testcase :( <tagoh_> juhp: installation testing should be done in another test day right? dunno if there are any difference related to i18n among them <juhp> hmm <juhp> tagoh_, but installer testday (is there one?) is not language specific <juhp> perhaps it could be part of l10n testday though dunno <pravins> good to take over on i18n related stuff :) <tagoh_> sure. my question is, does anaconda behave so much differently for installations <tagoh_> for i18n <tagoh_> I'm sure there are more or less some difference in the package sets. if there are any interests there for i18n, good to test. otherwise it may be duplicate right <juhp> I guess I am mainly thinking about input <juhp> and g-i-s as mentioned above <tagoh_> maybe we should focus more on the desktop spins first. <juhp> hmm yea they are also there <tagoh_> even though some of them can't be blocker if there are any issues <juhp> I guess most of the tests could be performed also on spins? <tagoh_> probably <pravins> good to go with Workstation release? <tagoh_> to be honest, anything is okay if the test cases can be performed so that there are no variant specific test cases at this moment <pravins> good point. <pravins> two things are pending from my side. <pravins> 1. Writing article in FedoraMagzine <pravins> 2. Asking if we can give badge to users contributing in testday. <mfabian> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges <mfabian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ * juhp is testing TC4 install ;) <mfabian> Where can one download TC4? <juhp> anaconda no longer accepts weak passwords... <juhp> mfabian, it is not announced yet for some technical reasons - the usual place :) <mfabian> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Alpha_TC4/ <juhp> yes <pravins> wrote one test case of Odia change https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Odia <mfabian> I hope Anaconda does not force one to use digits, special characters and upper/lower case in paswords: https://www.xkcd.com/936/ <- I like passwords like this. * smaitra hopes the same. <pravins> thanks anish_ paragan juhp tagoh_ epico mfabian_ smaitra lijli fujiwarat ueno for participation. <juhp> mfabian, I don't think so <pravins> 1 hrs is definitely not sufficient to complete this activity :) <epico> thanks <pravins> but at least we understood what has been done and what is pending <pravins> so lets continue this activity over the week as time permits. <pravins> we will check status is next week i18n meeting. <juhp> thank pravins <pravins> welcome :) <pravins> closing meetup now. <smaitra> thanks guys! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/42#comment:10> Fedora Internationalization <http://fedorahosted.org/i18n/> Fedora i18n Project -- i18n mailing list i18n@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/i18n