Re: #42: Fedora 22 i18n test day

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#42: Fedora 22 i18n test day
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Reporter:  tagoh  |       Owner:  tagoh
    Type:  task   |      Status:  assigned
Priority:  major  |  Resolution:
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Comment (by pravins):

 Next time such activity we will do on #fedora-meeting and may be will
 create specific page for tracking discussion. Till now keeping here for
 log.

 <pravins> hi anish_ paragan juhp tagoh_ epico mfabian_ smaitra lijli
 fujiwarat ueno
 <smaitra> hi
 <anish_> Hi
 <paragan> hi
 <epico> hi
 <pravins> w.r.t
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/i18n/2015-February/001857.html
 <tagoh_> hi
 <pravins> we planned last time to gather today for an hour say for
 planning to make our i18n test day better well managed.
 <lijli> cool
 <pravins> we are going to use testday app first time in this testday.
 <juhp> I like https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/2263/
 <pravins> lijli: juhp nice :)
 <pravins> detailed information regarding test day management is given on
 Very well detailed information
 <pravins> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management
 <pravins> but going through it might take time
 <pravins> tagoh_ is already leading this activity and done most of the
 things.
 <pravins> Test day event is happening on 19th March 2015.
 <pravins> I18n test day page is available on
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2015-03-19_i18n
 <pravins> tagoh_: can you guide us how to create new test case for
 testapp? and what are the available test cases for cleanup.
 <pravins> Agenda for activity is:
 <tagoh_> well, no big changes if we just wanted to update. if planning to
 add new one or drop the unnecessary test cases, we need to modify the
 metadata.
 <tagoh_> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/TestdayApp/F22
 <tagoh_> TestdayApp generates the result page against the metadata wiki.
 the above looks like
 http://testdays.qa.fedoraproject.org/testdays/show_event?event_id=23
 <pravins> nice.
 <pravins> tagoh_: we might need to add testcases for F22 proposed Changes,
 right?
 <tagoh_> pravins: if we want to test them yes
 <pravins> yes
 <pravins> anish_: paragan mfabian_ and me need to add testcases for
 proposed changes :)
 <pravins> so agenda for today meetup is.
 <fujiwarat> hi
 <pravins> 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/TestdayApp/F22  go
 through test case of your interest.
 <tagoh_> once it's done, add a link to the metadata.
 <pravins> 2. Check it if is correct, if not please fix it.
 <pravins> tagoh_: aha, i thought it happens automatically :)
 <pravins> sure.
 <pravins> hi fujiwarat :)
 <pravins> 3. Add missing test case (Change proposal if any) and add link
 in metadata.
 <pravins> thank you tagoh_ for explaining it. :)
 <pravins> if any doubts or need further elaboration please ask.
 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to juhp
 * pravins starting going through testcases.
 <pravins> i should first add test case for my change proposal.
 * juhp has changed the topic to: F22 I18n testcase improvement [Fedora
 Internationalization https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N | translators'
 channel is #fedora-l10n | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings
 https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/report/1 |
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat |
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2014-09-02_i18n | i18n wiki clean-
 up https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticke
 <tagoh_> pravins: there are nothing they do automatically actually. we
 need to update the result page with the updated metadata url by the hand.
 <pravins> lijli: smaitra do help us with your QE expertise. :)
 <pravins> tagoh_: sure.
 <smaitra> pravins, sure
 <tagoh_> it is required if we add/remove test cases from the metadata. no
 need to update if we modify a test case in the test cases of course.
 <smaitra> pravins, just a query, how extensive and in depth testing is
 recommended? asking, because, rendering test case steps mentioned are
 generic.
 * juhp sets mode -t #fedora-i18n
 <fujiwarat> Do we use fedcal instead of zimbra?
 <pravins> smaitra: good to improve it if possible.
 <pravins> fujiwarat: FedCal is for wider Fedora community.
 <smaitra> I will modify a bit, with as much as specific and targeted area
 of test coverage.
 <tagoh_> smaitra: thanks
 <fujiwarat> ok, I see. I didn't realize fedora-meeting is not used.
 <pravins> fujiwarat: apologies for confusion, from next time onwards we
 will use #fedora-meeting for specific activities as well. :)
 <mfabian_> it confused me a bit as well.
 * mfabian_ is now known as mfabian
 <fujiwarat> oh :).
 <juhp> the energy is slightly more relaxed here :)
 * pravins feel other way ;)
 <juhp> ok
 <juhp> anyway yeah probably having meetbot is nice
 <pravins> agree, its good for log.
 <juhp> erm, so any more actions?
 <tagoh_> BTW I intentionally dropped all of references in nice-to-test.
 maybe good to reset it and rebuild the references which one would be good
 to have a testing
 <pravins> tagoh_: good.
 <pravins> juhp: i remember you mentioned check regression on Anaconda
 input selection
 <pravins> and also gnome-initial-setup on input sources selection.
 <pravins> tagoh_: we are using Workstation for testing?
 <juhp> pravins, ah yeah installation testing would be good too - something
 we have not formalized in the past
 <tagoh_> good question - if there are any specific packages in variants,
 maybe good to have some categories for that
 * pravins understanding how it is difficult to write testcase :(
 <tagoh_> juhp: installation testing should be done in another test day
 right? dunno if there are any difference related to i18n among them
 <juhp> hmm
 <juhp> tagoh_, but installer testday (is there one?) is not language
 specific
 <juhp> perhaps it could be part of l10n testday though dunno
 <pravins> good to take over on i18n related stuff :)
 <tagoh_> sure. my question is, does anaconda behave so much differently
 for installations
 <tagoh_> for i18n
 <tagoh_> I'm  sure there are more or less some difference in the package
 sets. if there are any interests there for i18n, good to test. otherwise
 it may be duplicate right
 <juhp> I guess I am mainly thinking about input
 <juhp> and g-i-s as mentioned above
 <tagoh_> maybe we should focus more on the desktop spins first.
 <juhp> hmm yea they are also there
 <tagoh_> even though some of them can't be blocker if there are any issues
 <juhp> I guess most of the tests could be performed also on spins?
 <tagoh_> probably
 <pravins> good to go with Workstation release?
 <tagoh_> to be honest, anything is okay if the test cases can be performed
 so that there are no variant specific test cases at this moment
 <pravins> good point.
 <pravins> two things are pending from my side.
 <pravins> 1. Writing article in FedoraMagzine
 <pravins> 2. Asking if we can give badge to users contributing in testday.
 <mfabian> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges
 <mfabian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
 * juhp is testing TC4 install ;)
 <mfabian> Where can one download TC4?
 <juhp> anaconda no longer accepts weak passwords...
 <juhp> mfabian, it is not announced yet for some technical reasons - the
 usual place :)
 <mfabian> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Alpha_TC4/
 <juhp> yes
 <pravins> wrote one test case of Odia change
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Odia
 <mfabian> I hope Anaconda does not force one to use digits, special
 characters and upper/lower case in paswords: https://www.xkcd.com/936/ <-
 I like passwords like this.
 * smaitra hopes the same.
 <pravins> thanks anish_ paragan juhp tagoh_ epico mfabian_ smaitra lijli
 fujiwarat ueno  for participation.
 <juhp> mfabian, I don't think so
 <pravins> 1 hrs is definitely not sufficient to complete this activity :)
 <epico> thanks
 <pravins> but at least we understood what has been done and what is
 pending
 <pravins> so lets continue this activity over the week as time permits.
 <pravins> we will check status is next week i18n meeting.
 <juhp> thank pravins
 <pravins> welcome :)
 <pravins> closing meetup now.
 <smaitra> thanks guys!

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