On Wed, 17 Oct 2018, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > In case that was not clear: if you have a particular question just ask! > We're not being cryptic on purpose. well, I am wrestling with a 'priority' issue (I think) presently. Reading the man page for: fc-match it asserts it: -s Displays sorted list of best matching fonts assumedly: using the normal fontconfig matching rules to find the best font available whatever those are. I have read files, and do not see any obvious specification of 'priorities' Installed are: [herrold@centos-7 unsorted]$ rpm -qa | sort | grep font abattis-cantarell-fonts-0.0.25-1.el7.noarch adobe-source-code-pro-fonts-2.030.1.050-5.el7.noarch bitmap-lucida-typewriter-fonts-0.3-21.el7.noarch dejavu-fonts-common-2.33-6.el7.noarch dejavu-lgc-sans-fonts-2.33-6.el7.noarch dejavu-lgc-sans-mono-fonts-2.33-6.el7.noarch dejavu-sans-fonts-2.33-6.el7.noarch dejavu-sans-mono-fonts-2.33-6.el7.noarch dejavu-serif-fonts-2.33-6.el7.noarch fontawesome-fonts-4.1.0-1.el7.noarch fontawesome-fonts-web-4.1.0-1.el7.noarch fontconfig-2.10.95-11.el7.x86_64 fontconfig-devel-2.10.95-11.el7.x86_64 fontforge-20150824-1.orc7.x86_64 fontpackages-devel-1.44-8.orc7.noarch fontpackages-filesystem-1.44-8.orc7.noarch fonttools-2.4-3.el7.x86_64 ghostscript-fonts-5.50-37.orc7.noarch google-crosextra-caladea-fonts-1.002-0.4.20130214.el7.noarch google-crosextra-carlito-fonts-1.103-0.2.20130920.el7.noarch google-roboto-slab-fonts-1.100263-0.3.20150923git.el7.noarch hack-fonts-2.018-1.el7.centos.noarch lato-fonts-2.010-3.el7.noarch levien-inconsolata-fonts-1.01-12.el7.centos.noarch liberation-fonts-1.07.2-16.el7.noarch liberation-fonts-common-1.07.2-16.el7.noarch liberation-mono-fonts-1.07.2-16.el7.noarch liberation-narrow-fonts-1.07.2-16.el7.noarch liberation-sans-fonts-1.07.2-16.el7.noarch liberation-serif-fonts-1.07.2-16.el7.noarch libfontenc-1.1.3-3.el7.x86_64 libfontenc-devel-1.1.3-3.el7.x86_64 libreoffice-opensymbol-fonts-5.3.6.1-10.el7.noarch libXfont-1.5.2-1.el7.x86_64 libXfont2-2.0.1-2.el7.x86_64 libXfont2-devel-2.0.1-2.el7.x86_64 libXfont-devel-1.5.2-1.el7.x86_64 lyx-fonts-2.2.3-1.el7.noarch mathjax-ams-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-caligraphic-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-fraktur-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-main-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-math-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-sansserif-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-script-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-size1-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-size2-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-size3-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-size4-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-typewriter-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-winchrome-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch mathjax-winie6-fonts-2.4.0-1.el7.noarch msttcore-fonts-installer-2.6-1.noarch open-sans-fonts-1.10-1.el7.noarch stix-fonts-1.1.0-5.el7.noarch stix-math-fonts-1.1.0-5.el7.noarch texlive-amsfonts-svn29208.3.04-38.el7.noarch texlive-collection-fontsrecommended-svn28082.0-38.20130427_r30134.el7.noarch texlive-fontbook-svn23608.0.2-38.el7.noarch texlive-fontspec-svn29412.v2.3a-38.el7.noarch texlive-fontwrap-svn15878.0-38.el7.noarch texlive-latex-fonts-svn28888.0-38.el7.noarch texlive-metafont-bin-svn26912.0-38.20130427_r30134.el7.x86_64 texlive-metafont-svn26689.2.718281-38.el7.noarch texlive-pxfonts-svn15878.0-38.el7.noarch texlive-txfonts-svn15878.0-38.el7.noarch texlive-xetexfontinfo-svn15878.0-38.el7.noarch urw-base35-bookman-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-c059-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-d050000l-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-fonts-common-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-gothic-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-nimbus-mono-ps-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-nimbus-roman-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-nimbus-sans-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-p052-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-standard-symbols-ps-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch urw-base35-z003-fonts-20170801-11.orc7.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi-7.5-9.el7.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-75dpi-7.5-9.el7.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi-7.5-9.el7.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-75dpi-7.5-9.el7.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-misc-7.5-9.el7.noarch xorg-x11-fonts-Type1-7.5-9.el7.noarch xorg-x11-font-utils-7.5-20.el7.x86_64 [herrold@centos-7 unsorted]$ and the 'best' matches for 'Times Roman' are: [herrold@centos-7 ~]$ fc-match -s "Times" | head -n 5 NimbusRoman-Regular.otf: "Nimbus Roman" "Regular" times.ttf: "Times New Roman" "Normal" LiberationSerif-Regular.ttf: "Liberation Serif" "Regular" DejaVuSerif.ttf: "DejaVu Serif" "Book" DejaVuSerif-Bold.ttf: "DejaVu Serif" "Bold" [herrold@centos-7 ~]$ But something is missing, I believe, formerly carried in a pre-refactoring urw- font package: This is one candidate PDF which provokes the stderr messages below: http://gallery.herrold.com/stuff/ibm-rest-cloud-api-20180727.pdf [herrold@centos-7 unsorted]$ file ibm-rest-cloud-api-20180727.pdf ibm-rest-cloud-api-20180727.pdf: PDF document, version 1.5 [herrold@centos-7 unsorted]$ xpdf ibm-rest-cloud-api-20180727.pdf 1> /dev/null Config Error: No display font for 'Courier' Config Error: No display font for 'Courier-Bold' Config Error: No display font for 'Courier-BoldOblique' Config Error: No display font for 'Courier-Oblique' Config Error: No display font for 'Helvetica' Config Error: No display font for 'Helvetica-Bold' Config Error: No display font for 'Helvetica-BoldOblique' Config Error: No display font for 'Helvetica-Oblique' Config Error: No display font for 'Symbol' Config Error: No display font for 'Times-Bold' Config Error: No display font for 'Times-BoldItalic' Config Error: No display font for 'Times-Italic' Config Error: No display font for 'Times-Roman' Config Error: No display font for 'ZapfDingbats' =========== I would _like_ to have the old URW fontset back, unsatisfactory as it is considered in modern practice, present and working, but at whatever the lowest preferance priority is, so that I have the old PDF base series exact matched I do not attach, as it contains Personally Identificable Information, a form from the US Social Security Administration, and another from an insurance carrier I use, and neither is useful in Linux. See a PII sanitized screenshot: http://gallery.herrold.com/stuff/nasty-laying-PDF.png I am happy to file a bug, either in the Red Hat tracker or elsewhere as needed, and to reply to any questions Please let me know -- Russ herrold _______________________________________________ fonts mailing list -- fonts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to fonts-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/fonts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx