Le Sam 2 avril 2011 02:18, Kevin Kofler a Ãcrit : > > Behdad Esfahbod wrote: >> To be honest, I don't fully agree with upstream. Autohinter and bytecode >> *can* be used together. The results won't be optimal, but much better >> than the current output. Maybe someone can bring up the multi-script font >> use case with upstream and convince them to reconsider. > > Well, I think somebody would need to come up with a patch, too. > > The current Freetype code is such that the decision whether to autohint is > taken very early, much before the glyph is even loaded at all. So there are > also technical obstacles to implementing per-glyph fallback. > > Unlike upstream, I do think that the fallback should be per glyph, not per > font, but I don't know how to implement this. IMHO, Fedora should use the hinter setting most favourable to the improvement of FLOSS fonts. That's what Fedora mission *is*. Activating bytecode is clearly a win for fully hinted small ASCII fonts and or proprietary fonts. Because hinting (done properly) is hard, and FLOSS requires releasing early, and often, instead of sitting on a font till its is "complete", I suspect the current bytecode activation will only lead to : 1. stripping of partial hints from existing fonts (killing work and making sure full hinting will never happen) 2. use of autohinting in font editors (for a result that can be worse than freetype's autohinter, not sure if that permits manual hinting later or not) Thus I tend to think like Behdad its current activation is a mistake. However I don't create fonts myself, therefore I'd like to know what the opinion of the people managing big FLOSS projects (Dejavu, Linux Libertine, etc) is on this situation. And I'd defer to *their* opinion. The current change has clearly been done just because "OMG a patent has expired it must enable good stuff" and "Arial wants bytecode" not any serious analysis of what it meant from a FLOSS POW (some of the same people were staunch supporters of Luxi, despite its legal status) -- Nicolas Mailhot _______________________________________________ fonts mailing list fonts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/