I was trying to avoid fontconfig, but it caught me at the end. Trying to figure out which languages in comps are supported by which font, to be able to include them in the language group, I compared the list of languages in F11's comps file with the orthography lists fontconfig supports. To my surprise, some were missing/problematic. The list is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/LanguageSupportCriteria/Missing_fontconfig I also found quite a few problems with existing orth files in fontconfig that I'm working on fixing: http://tinyurl.com/dbk6a8 Since fontconfig support is critical for any language Fedora claims to support [1], I think we should remove the language groups from comps file if we don't have a fontconfig orthography file for it. I went and updated the language criteria page we have here, adding a fontconfig step: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/LanguageSupportCriteria For the specific language cases, I went and filed upstream bugs against fontconfig for all I could find, except for Berber, which is a bit problematic by nature (language code used is actually for a family of languages, glibc locales are incomplete, Latin/Tifinagh/Arabic script division is not along country lines...). This is a report. I would appreciate help and feedback, especially your thoughts about fontconfig .orth requirements for claiming language support in Fedora. Roozbeh [1]: Ask fc-list which fonts support Kinyarwanda (rw) by running "fc-list :lang=rw": it gives you nothing, while in real life, almost every font on your machine supports it. _______________________________________________ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list