It turns out that fontforge can already grok MATH tables [http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/math.html], so I had a look at the MATH tables oft the three contenders. No surprises that STIX doesn't work: a few constants are defined, but the rest of the sub-tables, like accents, shapes or constructions are completely empty. Calling this release a beta was a bit of a stretch... On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Vasile Gaburici <vgaburici@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Unlike Office 2007, XeTeX checks if a font contains the math script, > not the MATH table to decide whether it will work or not for Unicode > math. So with STIX it complains: > > Package fontspec Warning: > Font "STIXGeneral/ICU" at 12.0pt does not contain script 'Math' > > And predictably, it doesn't work: > http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/uni-asana.pdf > http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/uni-cambria.pdf > http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/uni-stix.pdf > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Vasile Gaburici <vgaburici@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> It turns out that STIX beta fonts have a modicum of MATH table (it >> didn't occur to me check), but not math script support. Because of the >> MATH table, STIXGeneral gets recognized as math font in Office 2007, >> but it doesn't really work; as soon as you type anything, you get >> Cambria Math instead. See: >> http://blogs.msdn.com/murrays/archive/2007/11/06/stix-beta-fonts.aspx. >> Also, the way the STIX fonts are spread across multiple otf files >> doesn't work with any typesetting software; but hey, if you just want >> to gawk at the glyphs with unicode.org's unibook viewer, it's fine. >> >> $ otfinfo -t /usr/share/fonts/stix/STIXGeneral.otf >> 251327 CFF >> 28 FFTM >> 30 GDEF >> 242 MATH >> 96 OS/2 >> 4346 cmap >> 54 head >> 36 hhea >> 10026 hmtx >> 6 maxp >> 6393 name >> 32 post >> 572 prop >> $ otfinfo -s /usr/share/fonts/stix/STIXGeneral.otf >> <<nothing>> >> >> $ otfinfo -t /usr/share/fonts/asana-math/asana-math.otf >> 354717 CFF >> 28 FFTM >> 30 GDEF >> 80 GPOS >> 1268 GSUB >> 12168 MATH >> 96 OS/2 >> 2262 cmap >> 44 feat >> 54 head >> 36 hhea >> 12076 hmtx >> 6 maxp >> 128 morx >> 15289 name >> 32 post >> 542 prop >> $ otfinfo -s /usr/share/fonts/asana-math/asana-math.otf >> DFLT Default >> grek Greek >> latn Latin >> math <unknown script> >> $ otfinfo -f --script=math /usr/share/fonts/asana-math/asana-math.otf >> dtls <unknown feature> >> onum Oldstyle Figures >> salt Stylistic Alternates >> ssty <unknown feature> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Vasile Gaburici <vgaburici@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> The STIX fonts do **NOT** currently have the math OpenType script. >>> What this means is that they have nice collection of glyphs, but no >>> special layout features, so they're pretty useless for actually >>> typesetting something with them. The math script, aka MATH table, is a >>> MS extension to OpenType. MS has not yet officially submitted any >>> documentation for these math layout extensions -- and they are quite >>> extensive -- not even in the draft 1.5/1.6 OpenType spec. Despite >>> this, it is the de-facto OpenType math standard, and support for it >>> has appeared in FOSS projects. >>> >>> These extensions are implemented only in the Cambria Math font (MS), >>> and now in Asana Math (FOSS). Fonts using these extensions are >>> currenly usable only in MS Office 2007 (and some other minor non-FOSS >>> products), but out of the FOSS world only XeTeX supports them right >>> now. LuaTeX is scheduled to add support by the end of this year, >>> together with the release of the GUST Math font. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams >>> <ivazqueznet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 05:41 +0300, Vasile Gaburici wrote: >>>>> It's nice to see that the first (& only?) FOSS OpenType math font, >>>> >>>> STIXFonts? Well, not quite FOSS yet, but soon hopefully... >>>> >>>> http://www.stixfonts.org/user_license.html >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams <ivazqueznet@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list