On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:02 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: > Hi, > > On 8/6/08, Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 13:03 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > We have already missed F10 Alpha release and I am still struggling > > > to get Maithili language support included in rawhide. The problem I see > > > is that we need to modify fontconfig package to include Maithili > > > language. I submitted bug[1] to add Maithili in bugzilla against > > > fontconfig 3 months back. But package maintainer of fontconfig closed it > > > instantly and made it upstream[2]. > > > I submitted required input in upstream bug. But, still no response > > > from upstream. If package maintainer is not willing to do code level > > > changes and also upstream then I will see no progress to add Maithili > > > language support in Fedora. So even if we will get translations and all > > > other changes done in Fedora by F10 release to support Maithili, users > > > will not able to see Maithili language selection in gdm. > > > > > > There is a misconception that bugs should be fixed as soon as they are > > submitted. That's simply not how it is. > I don't see this is misconception. I have seen and still working on > bugs that have been reported years ago. I have never said that bugs > should be fixed soon. Then I don't understand how relevant it is that you submitted the patch last month. > > You submitted the Fedora bug in April, without attaching any patch or > > anything. > I am not fontconfig maintainer/developer so how am I supposed to > know that what things need to fix bugs. Its responsibility of bug > person to whom bug got assigned to ask reporter for patch. Sure, and the maintainers/developers fix it whenever they have time to. > > I upstreamed it early May, the upstream maintainer asked for > > a patch on May 24, and released fontconfig 2.6 at the end of May. If > > you have submitted the patch in time, it would have been in latest > > fontconfig release and hence in rawhide, but you didn't submit a patch > > until July, and now expect it to suddenly appear in rawhide. > And then why you not CC'ed me to upstream bug. Does that look good > to you? When I tried to search whats current status in upstream then > only I realized that upstream is waiting for me. You should have asked > me on IRC/mail to submit patch there. > The only thing What I really don't like about you is that you never > replied back to me that you are in need of input. I never said I am > owner for all issues(say fontconfig) It's not my job to CC you. I upstreamed the bug and posted the upstream link on the Fedora bug. You were notified of that. It's your job to jump on the upstream bug if you care. > > I've talked to fontconfig maintainer to try to get a new version out in > > August. *That*'s how it should work. > So then where am I comes in picture?. You and upstream is the only > responsible to decide on issues then I should have not been asked to > submit patch. You submitted a patch. Thanks for that. > > > Can anyone provide inputs on this issue? Otherwise I will move ahead > > > and will commit required changes in rawhide and build new package as I > > > can see ACLs are open on fontconfig. > > > > I wouldn't particularly like that. Just because it's open doesn't > > mean... > It should mean anyone can fix issue. If not then make it CLOSED why > ACLs are open to everyone? Thats is reason I mail first before > modifying CVS. My apartment's door is open most of the time too. It's not because everyone can come in. On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:08 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: > Hi, > > On 8/6/08, Behdad Esfahbod <besfahbo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 13:03 +0530, Parag N(पराग़) wrote: > > > > > So even if we will get translations and all > > > other changes done in Fedora by F10 release to support Maithili, users > > > will not able to see Maithili language selection in gdm. > > > > > > Also note that this is not accurate. If DejaVu Sans has Maithili > > support, things should still work. Also, even if you patch rawhide to > > add orth file to fontconfig, not everything works. Pango for example > > needs to regenerate its language tables against the new fontconfig > > language database and that does *not* happen with a rebuild of Pango. > > I think I asked only about gdm language selection issue. If other > things will not get fixed in time then we will miss support for > Maithili language. gdm uses Pango too. > My only question was that why no update is given > on downstream or upstream bug? I should have wait if any update is > given on fontconfig bug before asking on this issue on mailing list. In general what I'm trying to say is that, we have time based releases for a reason. If a bugfix/feature/etc doesn't make it for F10, no big deal, there's always F10+1. It's a bit hard to understand at first, but you will appreciate it after a couple of times seeing what disasters rushing things can get you into. Anyway, back to work. -- behdad http://behdad.org/
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