Here is the scenario.... If you close the current project, or start piklab with no project, then select configure toolchains, the menu never opens and piklab crashes. Alain knew about the case of starting piklab with no projcet, but I didn't see any mention of the close the existing project and then try to configure tool chains. The message is: We are sorry, Piklab closed unexpectedly. You can help us improve KDE Software by reporting this error, Learn more about bug reporting. Note it is save to close this dialog if you do not want to report this bug. (((( several line feeds)))) Details Executable: piklab PID: 4157 Signal:11 (segmentation fault) Unfortunately I don't seem to have the requisite symbol information so the bug report won't finish, nor can I get valgrind to produce anything useful. The toolchain settings are probably going to make some change in the project file, So my first guess is that with no project file open, there is an attempt to write to an empty file. I am going to research this, but I thought that some one here may have already isolated the bug to a specific area in the software. If that is the case, the (hopefully simple) solution is to open a default project file, so that setups can be reported to it, and during project creation, the system wizard will prompt if you want to use that file. Or maybe simpler is just to load that file and modify it by the project wizard. I will reply either to this message or whoever follows up with what I find. Regards, Les H _______________________________________________ electronic-lab mailing list electronic-lab@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/electronic-lab