On 07/13/2015 01:49 AM, Peter Larsen wrote: > On Jul 10, 2015 8:39 AM, "Mikolaj Izdebski" <mizdebsk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Java build systems (Ant, Maven, Gradle) used to require "java-devel" >> because their typical usages involves code compilation, which requires >> full JDK. >> >> In Fedora 23 I've just replaced hard requirement on "java-devel" with >> recommends. > > Why? Most builds require javac. That's exactly my point - *most*, but not all. > Unless you are only installing and not > building why would you not want the java-devel? Ant, Maven and Gradle are generic build systems. While they are typically used for building Java projects, they are certainly capable of more. Some examples: - Maven supports "toolkits", which allow you to compile project with third-party JDK; in this case Maven can be ran with pure JRE - Ant, Maven and Gradle can all be used to compile non-Java code (such as C) - I've seen Ant scripts used for application deployment, which don't compile anything, but download and copy files around - Maven can also be used for app deployment (for eg. wildfly:deploy) - I've seen Maven used for static website gerenation (convert Markdown to HTML, apply templates, fetch CSS and JavaScript resources from remote repos, assemble WAR file) and so on... -- Mikolaj Izdebski Software Engineer, Red Hat IRC: mizdebsk -- java-devel mailing list java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel
