Re: Eclipse Luna on Fedora 21 and JDK 8 requirement

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Max Rydahl Andersen" <manderse@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Mikolaj Izdebski" <mizdebsk@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 9:24:36 PM
> Subject: Re:  Eclipse Luna on Fedora 21 and JDK 8 requirement
> 
> On 30 Oct 2014, at 11:46, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> 
> > On 10/30/2014 11:20 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote:
> >> Thus its surprising to me if fedora does not provide access to
> >> multiple
> >> builds of java
> >> for such testing. Does Fedora really only provide *one* Java runtime
> >> to
> >> install and test against ?
> >
> > Fedora 20 used to have 3 different Java versions (5, 7, 8).
> 
> ok, why no Java 6 ?

Besides many technical reason the biggest one is non-technical in my eyes - no one volunteered to do it. You know it's always a matter of "who will do the work?". I'm pretty sure that if someone jumps in and say "Hey, I'll maintain Java 6, fix problems/adopt Java 6 to changes in the OS if neeeded, help strengthen the switching between JREs, go through the Java projects(shipped in Fedora) and help them properly set their targets in build scripts so builds properly work on Java 6 and etc" there will be no objection to having Java 6. :)

> 
> > OpenJDK 7
> > was removed from F21 because its support will end before F21 EOL and
> > we
> > don't want to ship software not supported by upstream.
> 
> So for users most stable thing is to use Oracle JDK builds instead which
> are and will stay available ?

Users can still try to use it but it's something that they have to do on their own - download, extract, set PATH, etc. Just like on every platform with Oracle JVM.

> 
> No separate repo with "binaries that is currently supported but will not
> stay supported for all of fedora 21 lifetime" ?

1. Fedora can not legally redistribute Oracle JDK.
2. Fedora can not distribute something that Fedora developers can not support if there is a problem in it (as it is with Oracle JDK).

Alexander Kurtakov
Red Hat Eclipse team


> 
> (just trying to understand the logic/intent)
> 
> /max
> http://about.me/maxandersen
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