We'll have to move to Java 8 in Fedora sooner or later. I did some testing of Maven and Ant stacks regards that and most of things seem to be working well, except for javadoc. Java 8 has a very strict parser for javadocs, and any error or nuisance causes build failure -- almost all packages fail to build with Java 8 due to various errors in javadocs. In some cases we can probably fix javadoc problems and forward patches upstream, but we have many legacy packages for which we can't push any patches upstream. I don't see how in reality we can fix all packages we have. The only good solution I can think of is disabling javadocs. My proposal is making javadoc subpackages optional, which means that for some Java packages they could be disabled depending on maintainer decision. Legacy packages with dead upstreams would be able to disable javadocs (no one should try to develop anything depending on such packages, so that's perfectly OK IMO). For packages which have active upstreams we can fix javadocs and forward patches, or disable javadoc packages, report the problem upstream and wait for them to fix it. The main reasons for making javadoc optional are: 1. Java 8 problems, as explained above. 2. Storage. I took a typical set of 265 Java source packages. When all binary RPMs were installed they took about 1.5 GB of storage. Javadocs themselves take 1.3 GB, everything else is just around 250 MB. 3. Build time. Javadoc generation usually takes more time than compilation. Javadoc tool needs a lot of memory, an can be very slow, especially on ARM or POWER where there is no JIT. There are cases where javadoc generation accounts for more than 90 % of build time. I am looking to hear your opinion on this matter (positive or negative) and if there is some positive feedback then I would like to submit this proposal as a system-wide change for Fedora 21. -- Mikolaj Izdebski -- java-devel mailing list java-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/java-devel
