On 06/18/2018 11:57 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 18 June 2018 at 09:21, Dusty Mabe <dusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> On 06/18/2018 03:25 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:21 PM, Joe Doss <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> Hello! >>>> >>>> One major pain point that Fedora Cloud currently faces is the fact that once >>>> a new Fedora release comes out, the cloud images are no longer updated over >>>> time. This brings a poor user experience if bugs that are fixed later on in >>>> the current release cycle but are painful on the first boot of a Fedora >>>> Cloud instance until the user updates the instance. >>> >>> That's not entirely true, the cloud images are updated for major >>> security events. They are also built every day [1]. The issue is to >>> date there's not been a proper process in which they're >>> updated/communicated etc. Over all I welcome what you generally >>> propose. >> >> Yeah we build images every night (I talked to Joe about it), but as far >> as I know we haven't "released" any updated images after GA, even for security >> issues, for some time. >> > > Please define "release" as it can mean different things to different > groups. If you ask QA you will get one definition. If you ask release > engineering you will get a similar but slightly different one. And > various other groups have their own what constitutes a release. Using > the term in general leads to long threads where people are either in > violent agreement or completely arguing past each other for a long > time. > Release, meaning checksums are signed, content is on the mirrors, and the website links to it. At least that is what I think of in terms of a release from an end-user perspective. Dusty _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list -- cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to cloud-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/message/ALIFZRO7SHXXRX4AOJPCKPI2DB6ZWHNV/