Re: More frequent Fedora Cloud updates

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On 06/18/2018 11:57 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 18 June 2018 at 09:21, Dusty Mabe <dusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 06/18/2018 03:25 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 10:21 PM, Joe Doss <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> One major pain point that Fedora Cloud currently faces is the fact that once
>>>> a new Fedora release comes out, the cloud images are no longer updated over
>>>> time. This brings a poor user experience if bugs that are fixed later on in
>>>> the current release cycle but are painful on the first boot of a Fedora
>>>> Cloud instance until the user updates the instance.
>>>
>>> That's not entirely true, the cloud images are updated for major
>>> security events. They are also built every day [1]. The issue is to
>>> date there's not been a proper process in which they're
>>> updated/communicated etc. Over all I welcome what you generally
>>> propose.
>>
>> Yeah we build images every night (I talked to Joe about it), but as far
>> as I know we haven't "released" any updated images after GA, even for security
>> issues, for some time.
>>
> 
> Please define "release" as it can mean different things to different
> groups. If you ask QA you will get one definition. If you ask release
> engineering you will get a similar but slightly different one. And
> various other groups have their own what constitutes a release. Using
> the term in general leads to long threads where people are either in
> violent agreement or completely arguing past each other for a long
> time.
> 

Release, meaning checksums are signed, content is on the mirrors, and the website
links to it. At least that is what I think of in terms of a release from an end-user
perspective. 

Dusty 
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