On Wed, 2017-04-12 at 09:20 -0400, Mike Ruckman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 08:38:42AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > <...snip...> > > > The rolling releases will still be based on an underlying overall > > Fedora OS version. I think it helps from a PR perspective to have the > > Atomic Host based on new versions ready on "launch day". > > > > I was talking with Dusty about this the other day, and came up with > > this wording: > > > > Final: > > > > It must be possible to build valid Fedora Atomic Host deliverables > > (ostree, ISO, and images) from GA or post-GA packages for this Fedora > > release. > > > > * May include zero-day updates > > * "Valid" means passing the Fedora Atomic Host test automatic suite > > and manual validation > > > > Beta: > > > > It must be possible to build valid Fedora Atomic Host deliverables > > (ostree, ISO, and images) from this branch of Fedora. > > > > * I carefully didn't say "beta release" bits here. If we're > > successfully building on the new branch but have some particular > > issue at beta release time, it's okay to present an earlier build and > > later update once that's fixed. If necessary, we can call this > > "pre-release" rather than "beta". > > > > -- > > Matthew Miller > > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Fedora Project Leader > > I think both of these sound fine. There's a clear line between passing > and failing, and I don't *really* expect either of these to fail. I'll > bring these to the QA group for discussion on Monday about accepting > them as new release criteria. It would be good if people were there for > the discussion. Our meetings are at 1500 UTC. FWIW, this looks pretty reasonable to me as well, though I *can* see the possibility of grumbling at a Final go/no-go if everything else works but there's an Atomic showstopper. I might go for s/valid/working/ in the Final criterion, as it seems like a clearer word. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list -- cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to cloud-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx