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I can't make it ot the meeting today Sorry!

Zack Cylinder
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: tunir tests: what's this useradd-not-found failure?
      (Trishna Guha)
   2. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Thomas Mueller)
   3. [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't Allow Vagrant User To su To Other Users`
      (Dusty Mabe)
   4. [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't Allow Vagrant User To su To Other Users`
      (Trishna Guha)
   5. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Matthew Miller)
   6. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Thomas Mueller)
   7. Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas (Dusty Mabe)


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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 10:54:11 +0530
From: Trishna Guha <trishnaguha17@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: tunir tests: what's this useradd-not-found failure?
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,   Matthew Miller
        <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm looking at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/740, where
> there is a failure in the Fedora Cloud Base vagrant-libvirt image (yet
> vagrant-virtualbox and others are fine).
>
> The specific failure (with whitespace removed) from
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/1984/output is:
>
>   command: ## sudo python3 -m unittest
>   tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit -v
>   status: False
>   test_audit (tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit)
>   Tests audit ... FAIL
>   ======================================================================
>   FAIL: test_audit (tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit)
>   Tests audit
>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/home/vagrant/tunirtests/nongatingtests.py", line 265, in test_audit
>   self.assertIn('useradd', f)
>   AssertionError: 'useradd' not found in ''
>   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Ran 1 test in 0.140s
>   FAILED (failures=1)
>
> How is it that useradd is not found in this image but everything else
> works and other images are fine?
>

Interestingly this test passes for me:

[vagrant@localhost ~]$ sudo python3 -m unittest
tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit -v
test_audit (tunirtests.nongatingtests.TunirNonGatingtestaudit)
Tests audit ... ok

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Ran 1 test in 0.280s

OK

Also I have tested the commands and checked the audit log *manually*
which looks fine to me (Nothing missing in there).
Not sure why it failed on autocloud.


--
Regards,
Trishna Guha

trishnaguha17@xxxxxxxxx
trishnag.wordpress.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:43:47 +0100
From: Thomas Mueller <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Hi Dusty

Am 31.01.2017 um 19:05 schrieb Dusty Mabe

> On 01/30/2017 04:00 PM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Wasn't the fedora/25-cloud-base updated too?
>>
>> https://atlas.hashicorp.com/fedora/boxes/25-cloud-base lists v20161122
>> (last release 2 months ago).
> Hi Thomas,
>
> Unfortunately we only officially "release" the Atomic images every two
> weeks. We'd like to release the cloud base image more often but don't
> currently have enough resources to QA them and produce them more
> regularly.
>
> Note: We do regularly build the cloud images as part of the 2 week atomic
> process, but we don't officially "release" them.

what is the work to be done to QA the release?

we use the fedora vagrant boxes to run acceptance tests for e.g. the
selinux module (https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-selinux).

Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base
than atomic for vagrant.


- Thomas

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Date: Fri,  3 Feb 2017 13:31:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dusty Mabe <pagure@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't
        Allow Vagrant User To su To Other Users`
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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dustymabe added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
trishnag, currently still the same - it won't matter if we fix it now because we have not been releasing cloud base images so even if we fix it it would not get released for the cloud base image until f26. That is unless we decide to release a newer version of the cloud base image

``

To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/173

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Date: Fri,  3 Feb 2017 13:33:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Trishna Guha <pagure@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [atomic-wg] Issue #173 `Fedora Cloud Base Vagrant Boxes Don't
        Allow Vagrant User To su To Other Users`
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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trishnag added a new comment to an issue you are following:
``
@dustymabe ACK! I have the PR ready for the test https://github.com/kushaldas/tunirtests/pull/58
``

To reply, visit the link below or just reply to this email
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/173

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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 08:41:46 -0500
From: Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Message-ID: <20170203134146.GA5101@mattdm.org>
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On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base
> than atomic for vagrant.

Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough
downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search
for "Fedora".

Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very
interesting.

--
Matthew Miller
<mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fedora Project Leader

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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 15:19:47 +0100
From: Thomas Mueller <thomas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas
To: Fedora Cloud SIG <cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Am 03.02.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Matthew Miller:
> On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>> Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base
>> than atomic for vagrant.
> Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough
> downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search
> for "Fedora".
Google Search: Fedora Atomic

* (1st hit: www.projectatomic.io/)
* 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/
* click: download now
* click: vagrant downloads
* click: View downloads using vagrant tools

Google Search: Fedora Cloud
* (first hit: fedora atomic (https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/))
* 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/de/cloud/download (redirect to
https://alt.fedoraproject.org/de/cloud/)
* no information about howto use with vagrant directly, only possiblity
to download or "Want try Atomic" link at the bottom.

Google Search: Fedora
* Fedora Atomic "sub-link" (category link? don't know how they are
called) on first hit
* no Fedora Cloud on first page


IMHO:
* Even search for Fedora Cloud brings Atomic on top
* better information about Atomic then for cloud base (for vagrant use case)

Conclusion: i don't think downloads for cloud base are better because of
people searching find it better.

>
> Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very
> interesting.

I think the future is containers. but right now most people are still
not ready to start full containerization. Another question is if people
are using vagrant with Atomic. I use it to run tests. if possible i run
tests in docker because of lower overhead - I would not use vagrant to
start an Atomic vm to run a container in it I think.

- Thomas

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Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 09:27:42 -0500
From: Dusty Mabe <dusty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: fedora/25-cloud-base on atlas
To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On 02/03/2017 09:19 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>
>
> Am 03.02.2017 um 14:41 schrieb Matthew Miller:
>> On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 09:43:47AM +0100, Thomas Mueller wrote:
>>> Also download numbers on atlas indicate more interest for cloud-base
>>> than atomic for vagrant.
>> Part of that might be self-reenforcing, as there haven't been enough
>> downloads of Atomic yet to bump it to the front page when you search
>> for "Fedora".
> Google Search: Fedora Atomic
>
> * (1st hit: www.projectatomic.io/)
> * 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/
> * click: download now
> * click: vagrant downloads
> * click: View downloads using vagrant tools
>
> Google Search: Fedora Cloud
> * (first hit: fedora atomic (https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/))
> * 2nd hit: https://getfedora.org/de/cloud/download (redirect to
> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/de/cloud/)
> * no information about howto use with vagrant directly, only possiblity
> to download or "Want try Atomic" link at the bottom.
>
> Google Search: Fedora
> * Fedora Atomic "sub-link" (category link? don't know how they are
> called) on first hit
> * no Fedora Cloud on first page
>
>
> IMHO:
> * Even search for Fedora Cloud brings Atomic on top
> * better information about Atomic then for cloud base (for vagrant use case)
>
> Conclusion: i don't think downloads for cloud base are better because of
> people searching find it better.
>

I think what he was alluding to is that if you search for fedora on
Atlas [1] then you don't see atomic, which means that the cloud base
images could be getting selected because people don't know they are
there. This is because they are sorted by # of downloads, which is
fine.

[1] https://atlas.hashicorp.com/boxes/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&sort=&provider=&q=fedora

>>
>> Is there any way to get download numbers over time? That would be very
>> interesting.
>
> I think the future is containers. but right now most people are still
> not ready to start full containerization. Another question is if people
> are using vagrant with Atomic. I use it to run tests. if possible i run
> tests in docker because of lower overhead - I would not use vagrant to
> start an Atomic vm to run a container in it I think.
>

I agree with you that running Atomic in Vagrant can be considered less
useful to some people than running a mutable OS in Vagrant. At least
for me, part of the reason to run something in Vagrant is because you
want to do something (install rpms, hack up storage, test something) that
you don't want to do on your host. If you aren't running containers
Atomic would not be interesting to you in a Vagrant box at this point.

Dusty

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