On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 12:07 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Previously (at last year's Flock and after), we've talked about > replacing the Fedora Cloud Edition with Fedora Atomic Edition. (See > previous discussion on this list if you're unfamiliar with this > decision and its rationale.) > > We hadn't actually had much movement on _doing_ that, though, so one of > the goals of last week's Cloud WG FAD was to take the next concrete > steps. But, it turned out that everyone in the room (and > teleconferenced in) felt pretty strongly that we actually should go > even further — not just a single container host, but a full container > cluster solution based on OpenShift Origin. So, rather than letting > _that_ linger, let's work on the next steps for _that_. Surprising. > Roughly, I see that as: > > 1. Make sure we have agreement from the current Cloud WG members who > couldn't be there. We don't want to make big decisions like this > entirely in a room somewhere without full community input. > > 2. Reformulate WG members to match new target; possibly some of the > current WG members are more interested in other aspects of cloud > computing, like continuing work on the Cloud Base image. That's > absolutely fine (beyond fine - it's awesome!), but the whole point > of the WG structure is to support the editions. > > 3. Pick a name! I know, it's bikeshed painting to some degree, but it > really is actually important. Possibilities include: > > - Fedora Container Cluster Edition > - Fedora OpenShift Edition > - Fedora Atomic Cluster Edition > - Fedora Some New Entire Name We Create Edition > > and all have their plusses and minuses. > > 4. Update governance documents: that's: > - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Cloud_PRD > - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud/Governance > > 5. Submit the general idea to the Council for approval to change > Editions (I don't anticipate this being more than a rubber stamp, > but we should definitely get that stamp.) When you do this, can you make sure to elaborate on why moving to Atomic+Openshift Origin is good for Fedora, what benefits it brings, and where that leaves other Fedora efforts around Cloud (and even Atomic Host)? While that might all be self-evident to the Cloud WG members, it won't be to the entire Council and most definitely will not be to the greater Fedora ecosystem. > 6. Submit any (probably several) Change requests to FESCo for required > technical changes, and work with Design, Rel-Eng, QA, and etc. on > those. I'm curious to see what those might be. josh _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx