On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Dennis Gilmore <dennis@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Monday, April 18, 2016 2:59:18 PM CDT you wrote: >> On 04/15/2016 05:28 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: >> > On 04/15/2016 10:38 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> >> I would like us to demote them to secondary. >> > >> > Why? We've already decided to drop. I'm not opposed, just curious why. >> > IIRC we were hitting a major problem with kernel compat as well? >> >> Pinging on this - I thought we'd reached a decision and wanted to >> publicize that sooner than later. >> >> If there's a reason to prefer move to secondary, let's discuss. >> >> Best, >> >> jzb > > I prefer to move it to secondary because people could be relying on it still, > it gives us a way to move forward and not be blocked on 32 bit x86. If it does > not work then it will not get shipped. Just dropping them on the floor does > not give as smooth a transition, nor does it give people that want it still > the chance to pick it up and continue to carry it forward. Is the context Cloud, or in general? I think going from primary for all products to totally dropping it is a problem, even if install media is non-blocking. I have no stake in i686 at all, and I think Cloud and Server are less affected by totally dropping i686 than Workstation; but I think quitting i686 cold turkey needs reconsideration. Anyway I think no one has done anything wrong here, but the warnings of the kernel team were maybe considered something like, "oh, we'll get by one more release or two by the skin of our teeth before it blows up" and yet it just turned out that it's blowing up already. If the idea is we should block on i686 in general for upgrading, I'd agree, even though it's a pain. For Cloud, maybe the way forward at worst is to support Cloud Atomic. And the images are i686 only? Of course that assumes any problems with binutil and kernel, or whatever else comes up, is sanely fixable with a best effort. ? -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
