----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Brockmeier" <jzb@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:55:51 PM > Subject: Re: Atomic 2 week releases > > On 03/10/2015 09:20 PM, Michael P. McGrath wrote: > > Fedora in particular will have their > > rawhide and stable releases promoted differently on the Fedora sites and > > the project atomic page will likely promote things a little differently > > and that is probably Ok as long as everyone ultimately has a choice to > > download whatever they want. I think the promotion part is largely just > > a way to direct people who otherwise don't know how to make an informed > > decision. > > If we don't have a unified story between Project Atomic and Fedora w/r/t > what to download and what we think people "should" use, it's going to be > confusing. I'm very concerned that an Atomic that conforms to the normal > Fedora release cycle + a fast-moving Fedora-based Atomic from Project > Atomic is going to be a messaging nightmare. > > Some people's entry point to the discussion is via Project Atomic, some > enter via Fedora - and then of course we get people coming from third > parties who are writing about Project Atomic for a variety of reasons > and with a varying level of understanding about what Atomic is. We've > seen people just assume "oh, there's a CentOS build that says Atomic, it > *must* be a rebuild of RHEL Atomic" (which is wrong) and come away > disappointed. > > Assuming we'll be OK as "everyone has a choice to download what they > want" may be overly optimistic here. > > The more I think about this, the more I think we really need a unified > story rather than having two separate entry paths to Atomic for Fedora. > Perhaps I'm missing something then. Is there something specific to Fedora that you're concerned about that somehow we can ignore with CentOS and RHEL Atomic Host? I would think we'd need to align as best as we can with all of our communities. The messaging seems pretty simple to me and properly aligned with the communities. Fedora = Newest CentOS = Stable RHEL = Supported I get that there are several offerings that Fedora has, I don't feel compelled to list them all on projectatomic.io to people who likely won't have the information to make an informed decision anyway. We pick one for them, give a few word description on what it is, and set them loose. -Mike > > On the Project Atomic side I'm mostly concerned with the emerging tech. > > Getting new features in front of people as soon as possible. In the > > short term, Fedora rawhide really is the only place to do that. Longer > > term > > though there is a desire to base the Atomic dependent packages (docker, > > kubernetes, etcd, ostree, etc.) on something more stable. > > > -- > Joe Brockmeier | Project Atomic Doer of Things > jzb@xxxxxxxxxx | http://projectatomic.io > Twitter: @jzb | http://dissociatedpress.net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > cloud mailing list > cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct