Re: Fedora.next Product Branding for Cloud

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 08:14:57PM +0100, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
> Le 22/11/2013 19:25, Joe Brockmeier a écrit :
> >On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 05:16:06PM +0100, H. Guémar wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>since i might be unable to join the cloud WG meeting, here are my thoughts
> >>about it:
> >>
> >>1. Just Enough OS for developping SaaS applications in an agile & devops
> >>fashion :).
> >I think your response and mine are largely similar, but I don't think
> >we want to limit to SaaS, do we? If someone wants to develop an
> >application of any kind in public/private cloud, we want to be able to
> >be the foundation for that.
> 
> My definition of SaaS is here quite large, it include every piece of
> software that could benefit from elasticity (on-demand software,
> scale-out applications etc...).
> It could also be used as a building block for PaaS like OpenShift,
> Clever Cloud, Heroku etc.

Ah, OK.

For sanity's sake, can we use industry definitions instead of coining
our own? SaaS == Software as a Service, e.g. Salesforce or Dropbox. 

> The difference is probably that i'd like to emphasize the devops
> side, a bare image would bring little value to the existing.

In what ways? Not disagreeing, just looking for concrete ideas here.

> >>2. developers *and* operators that develop and maintain SaaS applications
> >>(could be hosted on a cloud, virtualization server, etc...)
> >Are we talking about the same thing, here? (SaaS)
> SaaS is a delivery model, it could be hosted on virtualization
> servers: from basic kvm/libvirt to full-fledged oVirt or vSphere.
> Cloud hosting is commonly understood as IaaS/PaaS, but as a
> developer, most of the time, development and testing is done on bare
> metal & virtual machines.
> Having exactely the very same image for
> development/staging/production environment would be an improvement
> of our target workflow.
> We should learn from Vagrant success though it's not-so-good piece
> of software, does solve an important issue to devops teams.
> 
> >Best,
> >
> >jzb
> best regards,
> H.
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Best, 

jzb
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