On 18/10/13 19:59, Matthew Miller wrote: > * Governance plan and documents > * A product definition -- target audience and so on > * A list of changes from existing procedures > * Actually doing things ... > I've also heard a few comments suggesting that the cloud guest should > basically just be the server product in image form, with cloud-init. > This is a model where cloud computing is basically seen as providing > "servers in the sky"; I think there's a place for that, but again, I > don't think it's what we should be aiming at. The point of having this > product as something different is so we can actually better address the > different needs. Matt, thank you for driving this further! During the last weekend, I was thinking about the definition of cloud working group and what we should achieve. When thinking about what will be the role of images in the cloud, let's say in 3-5 years, I believe, allmost every server image will be executed in a virtual environment, i.e. in a cloud environment. Thus, I think, we (as the cloud working group) should target this. Every image in the cloud will be used as "server" image, to serve something. That would mean switched roles/targets between the server wg and the cloud wg (in "their" target and in "cloud image" aim). So in terms of product definition: * we strive to provide cloud INFRASTRUCTURE to primarily execute server images provided by the server wg, target audience will be people running Fedora to provide infrastructure. Speaking of live cycles: Fedora is supported for about a year. Since infrastructure is deployed for longer cycles, we'd need to take care, that UPGRADING works well. This is something, we're not very good right now (compared to others). * Change from existing procedures: Provide an easy install of a cloud infrastructure on a (bare metal) system. For OpenStack, we'd already have such a solution: packstack. Still we might need to re-validate this, when OpenStack upstream might came up with a different solution. I can't say, if there is something like an installer for OpenNebula or Eukalyptus as well. When looking at the cloud image produced mainly by Matt, it's very useful to test and to make sure, Fedora runs well on other cloud platforms. On the other hand, I don't see this single product as the main outcome of this group. Matthias -- Matthias Runge <mrunge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ cloud mailing list cloud@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
