On 02/01/2010 10:11 PM, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, John Poelstra wrote: > >> Greetings, >> >> I sat in on a session at FUDCon where there was discussion about >> getting the AMIs updated to Fedora 12. Are we tracking those steps >> and their status on the wiki anywhere? Can I help with that process? >> >> I'm also curious if we have done any work to map out what needs to >> happen and when (a schedule) for Fedora 13 in terms of having Fedora >> 13 AMIs ready on release day? If there is not a schedule I'd be glad >> to help map one out and I'm guessing we need to start on this ASAP? >> >> Who is working on the different pieces right now? > > Let me do my best to describe where we are right now, and where we > should be headed. We should be working on two separate efforts: > getting the Fedora kernel sorted for EC2, and working on image build > tools for EC2. > > ==== > > 1. Fedora AKI for EC2. > > Where we are: Chatted with Justin Forbes today briefly, and evidently > we're waiting for the 2.6.32 kernel to move from updates-testing to > release. The goal of the kernel work is to make sure that it actually > runs properly on Xen hosts, which is what Amazon runs EC2 on. > > How to help: Amazon runs EC2 on many versions of RHEL. The oldest is > analogous to RHEL 5.2. If you can build a (RH)EL 5.2 Xen host, and > install a Fedora 12 guest built with the 2.6.32 kernel in > updates-testing. Justin, any particular things to test on that guest? > Is "does the damned thing boot" an effective test? Any particular set > of tests? > > ==== > > 2. Compose tools for Fedora EC2 images. > > To some degree, this is parallel work. To complete it, we'll need a > good F12 kernel -- but to get it started, we just need an overview of > the current tools, figure out how they're used, document, improve if > need be, and make it dead-easy for Fedora users to do what they want > to do. I think a lot of people have ideas of what we *could* do, but > we've yet to articulate what we *will* do. > > My $0.02: seems like thincrust might be a good place to start. Red > Hat folks have been working on it for a while, and I've liked my > initial experiences with it. It's dead easy to go from kickstart file > to virtual image, and they've also got a tool called ec2-converter > that allegedly sets up AMI images that are ready for upload. Maybe > the place to start is to take a current spin and walk down the path of > turning it into an AMI, and see how far we get. (Copying Joey Boggs, > who is the maintainer of ec2-converter: any advice? Gotchas?) ec2-converter is hardcoded to a specific kernel/modules setup, this can be updated and add a kernel override option once we have a new kernel to use. No gotchas AFAIK but it's been a few months since I've used and uploaded an AMI. > > The goal should be to have a handful of F13 AMIs very shortly after > the F13 release. > > ==== > > 3. IRC meetings. > > This "roadmap", such as it is, is very high-level. I wonder if > perhaps we should convene an IRC meeting this week and figure out > who's willing to jump in and help. At the very least, we can > articulate some tasks at a more granular level, and maybe get some > folks to pick them up. > > So... um... Thursday at 1900GMT / 1400 Eastern US time? I've got > #fedora-cloud registered on freenode. We could hang out, put together > a roadmap... you know, junk like that. works for me > > Any takers? Any counter-proposals? > > --g > > -- > Educational materials should be high-quality, collaborative, and free. > Visit http://opensource.com/education and join the conversation.