On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 01:42:39AM -0000, Be wrote: > Whether Tow Boot or uboot is on the SPI flash isn't really relevant to distros. The point is that distros shouldn't have to worry about shipping uboot, just like Fedora doesn't ship UEFI firmware for x86-64. Tow Boot has some UX advantages for mobile devices that may or may not be wanted in upstream uboot. Please read Samuel's blog post if you haven't already: https://samuel.dionne-riel.com/blog/2021/05/10/unveiling-tow-boot.html Sure. Although if we are asking them to ship with something perhaps our pleas will influence what they decide to do. > Regarding imagefactory and oz, it looks like those are for cloud images? I'm confused what that has to do with mobile phones. I'm talking about the Workstation/Plasma/XFCE images on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ So, yeah, fedora makes tons of different kinds of images. We have dvd isos, we make live images that expect to be booted to a live env (which you can then later install from), qcow2's for virt/cloud, raw disk images (where you expect to dd or use arm-image-installer to transfer to a usd card and run it), etc. We use a bunch of different tools for this currently, depending on the image: If it's a install dvd (like the server install dvd), it's made by pungi. If it's a live media (expecting to copy to a usb or the like and run live, later optional install) it's made by livemedia-creator. If it's a raw image (like current single board arm things we support) it's made by imagefactory. Our existing arm supported devices have followed the 'run arm-image-installer' to install a raw image to a usd and run from there. It might make sense to do something different for the pp and ppp... > > As for encryption, we could encrypt the filesystem in a loopback image or with Tow Boot's USB Mass Storage mode if Plymouth could show an on screen keyboard to decrypt it. Yeah. Lots to work out. kevin
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