Firstly please use a valid email address. > Whether Tow Boot or uboot is on the SPI flash isn't really relevant to distros. The point is that distros shouldn't have to worry about shipping uboot, just like Fedora doesn't ship UEFI firmware for x86-64. Tow Boot has some UX advantages for mobile devices that may or may not be wanted in upstream uboot. Please read Samuel's blog post if you haven't already: https://samuel.dionne-riel.com/blog/2021/05/10/unveiling-tow-boot.html We don't ship UEFI firmware for x86 devices but those vendors actively support there devices and firmware in the case of Pine64 they don't and I'd prefer to have something that I can verify rather than random stuff thrown at a wall from someone else. In 12+ years of working on Fedora arm its a lot less stress, but if Pine64 shipped their firmware that was signed and verifyable to LVFS and I could verify the signature etc and updatable with fwupd using UEFI capsule updates which is what we're working on with a number of vendors I would not build those firmwares in Fedora at all. We have a number of vendors where it's just like x86 already. > Regarding imagefactory and oz, it looks like those are for cloud images? I'm confused what that has to do with mobile phones. I'm talking about the Workstation/Plasma/XFCE images on https://alt.fedoraproject.org/alt/ They're not just for cloud images, they are a means of generating a image whether it be virtual or real hardware. All the images you reference are generated with ImageFactory. Believe me I set it up. > As for encryption, we could encrypt the filesystem in a loopback image or with Tow Boot's USB Mass Storage mode if Plymouth could show an on screen keyboard to decrypt it. We will have solved this problem with ImageBuilder very shortly. Watch F-37 features for IoT Edition as that will be the first adopter of that, as for OSK for plymouth, someone will need to do that work. _______________________________________________ arm mailing list -- arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to arm-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
