Re: Fwd: KVM on Samsung Chromebook A15

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I'll try this out.

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On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:02, Jon <jdisnard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> There is a HYP enabled u-boot floating around.
> 
> http://www.virtualopensystems.com/media/chromebook/nv_u-boot-snow.kpart
> 
> So far I've been unable to get it to boot Fedora, but others are welcome to try.
> 
> Here is the git for the above:
> https://github.com/virtualopensystems/u-boot
> 
> They also have some  documentation:
> https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/pipermail/kvmarm/2013-July/006481.html
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Jon Disnard
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> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Adam Goode <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Was there ever a resolution to this? I am happy to file a bug in the
>>> chromium tracker to get this looked at, if needed.
>> 
>> None that I'm aware of but if you could file a bug in the chromium
>> tracker that would be fab.
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:30:01AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>>>>> On 07/05/2013 05:07 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 11:59:28AM -0500, Jon wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm pleased to announce the availability of Fedora 19 for the 2012 Samsung
>>>>>>> Chromebook featuring ARM Exynos dual core A15 processor.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry to slightly hijack this thread.  I will try your remix later.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Reading the comments on https://lwn.net/Articles/557132/#Comments
>>>>>> it seems as if the news on KVM on the Chromebook is not good.  It
>>>>>> doesn't boot into HYP mode, and there's no way to make it boot into
>>>>>> HYP mode, so KVM won't be supported.  Is that right?
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's roughly what I'd expect to be the case. There might be a signed
>>>>> U-Boot someone has hacked that does enable HYP mode, but otherwise I
>>>>> suspect you're out of luck. I'll ask around during Linaro Connect.
>>>> 
>>>> I asked about this on #kvm-arm earlier today and got this long reply:
>>>> 
>>>> 11:58 < rwmjones> I'm reading a comment here:
>>>> 11:58 < rwmjones> https://lwn.net/Articles/557561/
>>>> 11:58 < rwmjones> which suggests that KVM on the Samsung Chromebook 2012 (ARM A15 version) isn't possible because the
>>>>                  bootloader doesn't boot into HYP mode
>>>> 11:58 < rwmjones> is this true?  if so is there a way around it?
>>>> 11:59 < pm215> IIRC the bootloader gets control in secure-SVC
>>>> 11:59 < pm215> it is from there possible to get to NS-HYP
>>>> 11:59 < pm215> it's just that the stock bootloader doesn't do this before booting the kernel
>>>> 11:59 < rwmjones> so what's involved in making it work?
>>>> 11:59 < pm215> somebody needs to write some code and get it into the bootloader
>>>> 12:00 < rwmjones> ok, and the bootloader can be replaced (next comment down suggests this requires soldering)?
>>>> 12:01 < pm215> I believe this to be true, though I don't have a chromebook
>>>> 12:01 < pm215> I think you get the google bootloader to chain boot some other bootloader which you do have control of, and then
>>>>               that can actually boot your os
>>>> 12:02 < suihkulokki> or maybe we could just prepend some code in front of the kernel zimage that switches to HYP mode?
>>>> 12:02 < pm215> nope
>>>> 12:02 < suihkulokki> damn
>>>> 12:02 < pm215> we spent quite a long time being very firm that the ABI here is "bootloader's job to get this right"
>>>> 12:03 < pm215> there are some u-boot patches currently going through code review to do the go-to-hyp-mode thing properly for
>>>>               arndale
>>>> 12:03 < pm215> hopefully if they get upstream it will be more straightforward to say "ok, I have $other-board and it needs to
>>>>               do this too"
>>>> 12:05 < apritzel> which would require that the Chromebook u-boot support is upstream as well
>>>> 12:05 < apritzel> AFAIK this is not the case currently
>>>> 
>>>> [There's more of this, but that seems to cover the main points]
>>>> 
>>>> Reading around this, it does seem as if it's possible to get from
>>>> secure SVC to HYP (although not easy).
>>>> 
>>>> Rich.
>>>> 
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