Re: KVM on Samsung Chromebook A15

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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Adam Goode <adam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Was there ever a resolution to this? I am happy to file a bug in the
> chromium tracker to get this looked at, if needed.

None that I'm aware of but if you could file a bug in the chromium
tracker that would be fab.

Peter

> Adam
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:30:01AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>>> On 07/05/2013 05:07 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 11:59:28AM -0500, Jon wrote:
>>> >> I'm pleased to announce the availability of Fedora 19 for the 2012 Samsung
>>> >> Chromebook featuring ARM Exynos dual core A15 processor.
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to slightly hijack this thread.  I will try your remix later.
>>> >
>>> > Reading the comments on https://lwn.net/Articles/557132/#Comments
>>> > it seems as if the news on KVM on the Chromebook is not good.  It
>>> > doesn't boot into HYP mode, and there's no way to make it boot into
>>> > HYP mode, so KVM won't be supported.  Is that right?
>>>
>>> That's roughly what I'd expect to be the case. There might be a signed
>>> U-Boot someone has hacked that does enable HYP mode, but otherwise I
>>> suspect you're out of luck. I'll ask around during Linaro Connect.
>>
>> I asked about this on #kvm-arm earlier today and got this long reply:
>>
>> 11:58 < rwmjones> I'm reading a comment here:
>> 11:58 < rwmjones> https://lwn.net/Articles/557561/
>> 11:58 < rwmjones> which suggests that KVM on the Samsung Chromebook 2012 (ARM A15 version) isn't possible because the
>>                   bootloader doesn't boot into HYP mode
>> 11:58 < rwmjones> is this true?  if so is there a way around it?
>> 11:59 < pm215> IIRC the bootloader gets control in secure-SVC
>> 11:59 < pm215> it is from there possible to get to NS-HYP
>> 11:59 < pm215> it's just that the stock bootloader doesn't do this before booting the kernel
>> 11:59 < rwmjones> so what's involved in making it work?
>> 11:59 < pm215> somebody needs to write some code and get it into the bootloader
>> 12:00 < rwmjones> ok, and the bootloader can be replaced (next comment down suggests this requires soldering)?
>> 12:01 < pm215> I believe this to be true, though I don't have a chromebook
>> 12:01 < pm215> I think you get the google bootloader to chain boot some other bootloader which you do have control of, and then
>>                that can actually boot your os
>> 12:02 < suihkulokki> or maybe we could just prepend some code in front of the kernel zimage that switches to HYP mode?
>> 12:02 < pm215> nope
>> 12:02 < suihkulokki> damn
>> 12:02 < pm215> we spent quite a long time being very firm that the ABI here is "bootloader's job to get this right"
>> 12:03 < pm215> there are some u-boot patches currently going through code review to do the go-to-hyp-mode thing properly for
>>                arndale
>> 12:03 < pm215> hopefully if they get upstream it will be more straightforward to say "ok, I have $other-board and it needs to
>>                do this too"
>> 12:05 < apritzel> which would require that the Chromebook u-boot support is upstream as well
>> 12:05 < apritzel> AFAIK this is not the case currently
>>
>> [There's more of this, but that seems to cover the main points]
>>
>> Reading around this, it does seem as if it's possible to get from
>> secure SVC to HYP (although not easy).
>>
>> Rich.
>>
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