Re: Introduction and dumb questions

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On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Rusling <david.rusling@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter,
>   what's been confusing me (amongst other things) is that system->add/remove
> software does not, for example show LibreOffice.  Instead it shows a bunch
> of plug-ins, fonts etc.   So "yum install libreoffice" works, but I cannot
> see "libreoffice" under installed softtware.   Strange.   This is more to do
> with unfamiliarity with Fedora.   I'll stick to apt-get, err yum...

Ah, OK, I'm not sure the state of that as I think I've used it maybe 5
times on x86.

Peter

> On 3 December 2012 23:33, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:10 PM, David Rusling <david.rusling@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> > Peter,
>> >   is thunderbird available for F17?   Thanks for the tips, I've built
>> > jsoncpp, so I have a valid build environment to start with at least.
>> > Time
>> > for bed now...
>>
>> Yes, although I'm not sure what the latest built version is. I need to
>> fix a kernel problem to ublock some builds. I think TB 16 is there,
>> you should just be able to do "yum install thunderbird"
>>
>> Of the 12K source packages, a lot more binary, in F17+ we're only
>> missing around 300 in total so if it's in mainline Fedora and it's not
>> x86 specific or some of the more strange packges (ada, D, fpc and a
>> few others) it'll likely just be a "yum install" away. Testing and
>> feedback of everything and anything gladly welcomed... both good and
>> bad :)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3 December 2012 22:53, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:46 PM, David Rusling
>> >> <david.rusling@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Peter,
>> >> >
>> >> > On 3 December 2012 22:42, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi David,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:29 PM, David Rusling
>> >> >> <david.rusling@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > all,
>> >> >> >   it's been a while since I've build / been involved with RPM
>> >> >> > packages,
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > I now have a Samsung ARM chromebook to play with.   I've installed
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > various rpm build tools.   Questions
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Welcome back ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >  - do I need to use Koji or this more of a tool for package
>> >> >> > maintainers
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > build and upload packages etc?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No, you don't need to build them with koji, it's primary role is to
>> >> >> build the official distro packages although it's possible to use it
>> >> >> for scratch builds too. The easiest way to do this locally is to do
>> >> >> "yum install fedora-packager gcc" and then run rpmdev-setuptree
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> will setup a local rpm build env.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Great, thanks.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There's a good overview here
>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >  - do the standard Fn source RPMs include support for ARM?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes. We use 100% upstream mainline Fedora src.rpms, 99% of them even
>> >> >> build on ARM ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >  - anyone want a package ported to ARM?  I want the Chrome web
>> >> >> > browser,
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > should probably start with something simpler
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It might be that the Chromium packages that spot builds for x86 are
>> >> >> buildable for ARM, I've not tried to do so though.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chromium
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > That's what got me looking at building source RPMs.  Looking at
>> >> > ffmpeg*,
>> >> > it
>> >> > doesn't build for ARM, various bits are missing, so may start there.
>> >>
>> >> ffmpeg* builds (I've done so in the past) but there are some circular
>> >> deps which need hacking about. You won't need to deal with that soon
>> >> with rpmfusion for ARM.
>> >>
>> >> >> >  - good informational website on getting going porting packages to
>> >> >> > ARM?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are you talking of packages that are in mainline Fedora or other
>> >> >> third
>> >> >> party packages? There is work to get the rpmfusion supporting ARM,
>> >> >> this is moving forward and should be more widely available soon.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, I'd also like Skype and Thunderbird for starters.
>> >>
>> >> Thunderbird is already built and available (I'll look at the F-18
>> >> build failure in a minute for TB 17) but I'm sorry you'll need to
>> >> speak to Microsoft for the Skype one as it's closed source :-)
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > David A Rusling
>> > CTO, Linaro
>
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> --
> David A Rusling
> CTO, Linaro
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