Right. My concerns still are we need to make sure the current patches are getting upstream to f16+ and rawhide. I hate to see time wasted trying to track down already fixed bugs. There are other people working on ARM support ie Ubuntu, and upgraded versions of the software may actually fix some issues. (yes there still will be issues.) Given the decision has been made to forgo the F16 release. Can we get away with taking a snapshot of the F15 base and F15 Updates trees, and merge them and call that F15 base? All the work that was done for F14 is really all in F16. It may not appear in F15 base, but may appear in F15 updates. Depending on when/if the patches were applied. Or is this not the case? Quoting Jonathan Masters <jcm@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Plan was to release a good enough F15 but absolutely to do some kind > of release (just cap when we will move on to keep momentum - a > couple more weeks and we need to be focused on rawhide). It's F16 we > are wanting to skip in order to focus on rawhide by the new year. > > -- > Sent from my phone - message formatted and/or shortened accordingly. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Robinson [pbrobinson@xxxxxxxxx] > Received: Tuesday, 25 Oct 2011, 11:17 > To: Chris Tyler [chris@xxxxxxxxxxx] > CC: Fedora ARM secondary architecture list [arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Subject: Re: Fedora 16 > > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Chris Tyler <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-10-25 at 17:49 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> So what's the status of this? Are we using the F-15 as the external >>> repo base for building F-17? When is it going to happen? My >>> understanding is we have enough of both arches built that we can start >>> this rolling. It would be good to see some public movement on this now >>> and to get this rolling rather than delaying further. >> >> No one's delaying, but there is a sequence to this that we shouldn't >> short-circuit: >> >> * Sync up the armv5tel and armv7hl pre-koji package sets <= We are here >> * Do final F15 build in Koji > > It was my understanding from dgilmore's proposal above that we were > going to skip F-15 and just go straight to F-17. Ultimately whether we > do a final F-15 or F-17 it doesn't really matter, the current build > tool chain for them both is derived from gcc 4.6.1 > >> * Release F15 (& start F15-updates builds) >> * Finalize koji changes for rawhide (rpm, rpmbuild, yum, koji, armv7hl >> rootfs) >> * Do necessary prebuilds for rawhide (build-previous or other) >> * Build for rawhide, shadow PA as closely as possible >> * Branch F17 when PA does >> >> At the end of this process we'll be building for at least three releases >> (F15updates, F17, rawhide) across two archs - 6 builds total. > > Why? I thought the above process was with the idea of just using the > F-15 work that was done as a base to go straight to F-17 and forget > the rest. Clearly people need to start documenting the exact process > for all to see. > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > arm mailing list > arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm > -- "The information in this email, and attachment(s) thereto, is strictly confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the named recipient(s), and access to this e-mail, or any attachment(s) thereto, by anyone else is unauthorized. Violations hereof may result in legal actions. Any attachment(s) to this e-mail have been checked for viruses, but please rely on your own virus-checker and procedures. If you contact us by e-mail, we will store your name and address to facilitate communications in the matter concerned. If you do not consent to us storing your name and address for above stated purpose, please notify the sender promptly. Also, if you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender by replying to this transmission, and delete the e-mail, its attachment(s), and any copies of it without, disclosing it." _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm