Peter Robinson wrote: >>> I must say that I like this idea A LOT! :D >> I like this idea a lot too. It will speed up development. :) >> >> If the -main- development is done this way, then a final compile for >> the release is done on actual hardware with the actual toolchain, it >> would also meet the specs of the Fedora Project. This is less >> frustrating to developers, and it should only require a 1 recompile >> since the build issues should be fixed. > > Ultimately anything compiled in koji that is not a scratch build could > conceivably become part of the final compose of the OS so there's no > way of telling what is dev and what is final. In reality once things > settle down all development should be done upstream in Fedora and > koji-shadow then just follows mainline. I didn't think this was a suggestion for the official build koji, was it? The point is that it is very hard to meaningfully troubleshoot a process that takes 3 days to fail on a 1.2GHz ARM, and then has to be re-started from scratch. The incremental progress becomes too painfully slow. But if we can get that 3 day process into a 3 hour process (e.g. I've only got about 4GHz worth of ARM cores, but about 40GHz worth of x86-64 cores), then the problem is at least transitioned from the realm of unworkable into the realm of slow. Once you know it builds and works, waiting for 3+ days so bad because at least you know something usable will come out of it. Gordan _______________________________________________ arm mailing list arm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/arm