Re: Fedora 13 ARM Beta2

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On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 10:45 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Gordan Bobic <gordan@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > Jon Masters wrote:
> >> On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 21:10 +0000, Matthew Wilson wrote:
> >> 
> >>> 2. Armv7 / VFP / NEON support to squeeze a bit more performance out
> >>> (where appropriate to the h/w).
> >> 
> >> FWIW, I think (eventually), moving to an ARMv7 base has a lot of
> >> benefit, with not a (lot) of drawback. After all, Fedora ARM is new
> >> enough that there isn't a lot of legacy out there (there will always be
> >> old ARM boards people want to use, certainly), and all of the boards now
> >> being produced are based on Cortex (or similar) designs with v7. There
> >> are one or two notable exceptions, but it's obvious where things are
> >> headed. It's really just a question of /when/ to switch IMHO.
> >
> > I think you are overestimating the proliveration of ARMv7. There are a 
> > lot of capable ARMv5 devices out there, such as the SheevaPlug/GuruPlug.
> >
> > Is the plan to offer both v5 and v7 builds (same way as there is an x86 
> > and x86-64 build)? Or v7 only?
> 
> Please do not alienate us SheevaPlug/GuruPlug users.
> 
> > IMO committing to ARMv7 to the point of exclusion of everything else 
> > would be a bad idea at the moment. The primary motivation for the v7 
> > switch is performance, and there are still a number of ARMv5 and ARMv6 
> > devices out there that are more than adequate on the ARM performance scale.
> 
> Seconded.  Please do not drop v5 support.

The current plan is to continue armv5tel (softfp) and to add armv7hl
(hardfp+vfp) in the f15 cycle (post F15-armv5tel release). So no, there
are no plans to drop v5 at this time.

(An open question would be whether there's value in a small armv7l
initiative (softfp+v7+vfp+neon) for some of the key libraries in the
interim, to work with the rest of the armv5tel userspace).

-Chris

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