On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 12:28 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 10:01:19AM -0400, Paul Frields wrote: > > I expect we'll have a timeline toward the end of the > > "discovery/investigation" phase. It's hard right now to put an ETA on > > the work without figuring out first the total pile of things that need > > to be fixed, changed, created, etc. > > Yeah, that's fair, but that can itself be the answer. How long is the > discovery/investigation phase, and what will its concrete output be? How do > we know that we've discovered and investigated enough? To answer in order: * I would think the end of CY2018 for the first phase, maybe DevConf.cz at latest. There are several hurdles that could interfere with sooner: * Successful F29 release and not wanting to get in its way * Internal RH projects that need to be finished or ramped down * A list of epics that can be used to classify/track, prioritize, and drive all the underlying tasks (TBD in tree.taiga.io) * I doubt this is a project that will be "done once and for all." There will be some iteration needed. We've discovered enough when we can plan out 3, maybe 4 releases worth of work (say, to F32 or so). The environment around Fedora changes too rapidly to make it worthwhile to go further. -- Paul _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx