On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 14 April 2017 at 22:10, Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 9:55 AM, Matthew Miller >> <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> It's also worth pointing out that if people are seeing it as >> uninteresting and boring, then perhaps we just need a better message >> around why it's exciting to help develop a fully featured Free >> operating system. The new message may even help in that, but we have >> to remember that we haven't actually "won" the war for Free and Open >> Source software. There are all-new battles to fight and some of the >> same old battles are there too. >> >> Please consider integrating these core aspects into a new mission draft. > > > I am not disagreeing with your feeling, but working with mission > statements aren't one of those things which do well with statements > like "Please consider". Offer a patch or don't expect the change to > move forward or in the way you wanted. [Think of it like telling the > kernel people it would be nice if they considered implementing for the > sound card in your computer... they can say they did but since they > have no idea what that would be like.. didn't.] > I guess I could suggest something, like... Fedora creates an innovative operating system platform built on free and open source software that lights up hardware, clouds, and containers for software developers and community members to build tailored solutions for their users. How is that? That wasn't even that difficult. But I wanted to know why they felt it was okay to leave those bits out in the first place. The thing I couldn't quite figure out how to fit into the new language was showing we still care about the Linux desktop and other more conventional avenues. As it is, it feels a bit exclusionary from that. Any suggestions? -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx