Re: [council] #71: IRC SIG reform

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#71: IRC SIG reform
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 Reporter:  be0      |       Owner:
   Status:  new      |    Priority:  normal
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Comment (by kevin):

 Replying to [comment:7 bex]:
 > A few ideas came out of the council meeting.  Your feedback and comments
 are greatly appreciated:
 >
 > * What if we split moderation and ops duties.  Under this model, ops
 does technical work and enacts moderator decisions that require privileges
 as needed. Moderators would be drawn from ambassadors, diversity and
 commops.  The groups are already charged with helping with friendliness
 and accessibility. Those groups would need to decide how to determine who
 is a moderator and for how long.
 >
 > * Assuming a moderator/ops split, ops could serve as an in the moment
 reality check for moderator decisions.

 I fear this would be pretty complex and lead to situations where one or
 the other group is not around and no action is taken, or the process
 bypassed.

 > * Consider guidelines for how to log problems and Code of Conduct
 violations.  Consider anonymized external reporting.

 Sure, but again, I think this could get too complex... we do have the logs
 in the bot currently.
 If we made sure annotations are in there would that be enough?

 > * Hold annual elections (or release cycle elections) for ops.

 I don't think thats a good way to go about things. It could lead to people
 voting for whoever they think (or know) would let them get away with
 things, would cause more voter fatigue, and seems out of place for a
 technical position.

 Now, I don't want to be all negative here, and I am personally not adverse
 to change.
 Some more ideas I'll toss out:

 * Since the irc sig doesnt have too many active members these days and
 currently only meets when we have open tickets, perhaps we could pull them
 into the commops meetings/list. Just have a section to discuss issues
 there and increase visibility to perhaps bring in more active people.

 * If we can get folks from ambassadors, diversity and commops interested
 in helping out in channel perhaps come up with some way to promote from
 them to ops after they have proven they will be around and are suited
 for/interested in doing that.

 I really think the best way to improve friendlyness is not by increasing
 enforcement or punishment, but by simply having lots more friendly people
 around. So, I am personally also very much in favor of trying to increase
 the helpfull, friendly people in channel.

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