On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 09:05:12AM -0700, Mark Terranova wrote: > Glad to see more TOSW applied. /me still has concern we are aiming for > stasis, rather than growth. What about new contribs? They are joining and > it seems to me that they will concern local folks- there is only so much > money to go around. New contribs = less money for people's existing events. Growth is _absolutely_ the target, both in userbase and in engaged, active, happy contributors. I'm personally more interested in the contributor part, but in order to a) have contributors' work actually be useful and meaningful and b) have a pool of contributors at all, we need user growth too. So, we have the Fedora.next three-editions strategy, which is aimed at that. The numbers show that it is working: we _are_ growing. This is excellent — but, we can't simply tell Red Hat "Look, we're growing, so give us more money." The response to that is "What are you doing with the money we've been giving you?" — and, frankly, other than saying "Well, we hope that the positive numbers we're seeing are linked to whatever we spent it on", we don't currently have a good answer to that. So, this is absolutely not the old budget process. This will allow us to _really_ answer that question — and not just for Red Hat, but for ourselves, because as we look together at these hard decisions on where to spend and where to scrimp, we need to ask ourselves the exact same thing. For every dollar, does this advance us towards our mission over other possibilities? There are millions of dollars worth of things that would be _excellent_ for Fedora to do. Whenever someone says "That's worth an additional $5000" — well, probably it is, but we only have so many $5000s to go around. Let's demonstrate that we are spending in a way that directly advances the mission through our agreed-upon objectives. Then, we will be in a solid position to argue that more will advance us even further. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The Fedora Project's mission is to lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community.