Re: Empowering Fedora sub-communities

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> On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 11:06:06PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > How about if we decouple Fedora-the-product and Fedora-the-community?
> > The obvious model here is Ubuntu, who over time have spawned several
> > products driven by independent subcommunities. These products are
> > independently managed but use common respoitories and are tied to the
> > same overall release schedule, and each has its own strong branding -
> > Kubuntu even has its own financial backing.
> 
> I like the basic idea -- and _especially_ like reinforcing that the Fedora
> community (and the Fedora Project) are bigger than the Fedora distribution.

That's what KDE as a community/project tried to do - for the same reason.
One would say without a lot of success. 

But the idea is - KDE is a community, project that's umbrella for many other
subprojects, like Plasma Workspaces, Libraries (now KDE Frameworks) and
Applications that actually does not have to be ran on top of Plasma
Worskpace but for example as part of our Workstation.

"Today KDE released updates for its Workspaces, Applications and Development
Platform." 

Maybe we can try to decouple Fedora Project from actual products in terms
of branding. Yeah, there's possibility of loosing strong brand as Fedora
is, there's possibility Fedora brand is so strong, that we will never get
to misuse of this name (as happened for KDE). 

"The Shell by Fedora Project"
"The Role Server by Fedora Project"
"The Plasma by Fedora Project"

Hosted on the own domains, name spaces with fedoraproject.org as umbrella
for common wiki etc.

But I'd expect it would be much more work we are able to do in the short
term future but next actually drives this change.

> And I also share your concern about the perception. Is the Ubuntu model
> drawing the line a little too strongly? If we go this route, I want the...
> secondary (is there a better word here?) products to still feel (and be!)
> supported and included rather than kicked out or downgraded.

Well, I perceive that model as there are no sub-communities but several
communities on their own and it's probably going to diverge more in the
future with underlying technologies Ubuntu is going to use.

Jaroslav

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