(Breaking this out from the ticket paste) One of the problems we face with deciding that Fedora is just our official products is that it makes it harder to figure out how spins fit in. One of the problems with defining Fedora more widely is that it makes it difficult to explain what Fedora actually is and guide users to appropriate downloads. Perhaps we're thinking about this the wrong way. .next is an opportunity for Fedora to develop a strong brand image over a small set of deliverables - Fedora-the-product, if you will. But Fedora-the-community is much larger than those deliverables. Most of the discussion we've had has been figuring out how to fit Fedora-the-community into Fedora-the-product, and I don't think there's any way to do that without compromising the associated benefits. How about if we decouple Fedora-the-product and Fedora-the-community? The obvious model here is Ubuntu, who over time have spawned several products driven by independent subcommunities. These products are independently managed but use common respoitories and are tied to the same overall release schedule, and each has its own strong branding - Kubuntu even has its own financial backing. Rather than saying that Fedora-the-product should represent all of our independent subcommunities, we could allow individual subcommunities to define their own product definitions, driven by their own branding. For example, KDE could define separate desktop (Plasma) and mobile (Plasma Active) products without having to worry about them conflicting with any other products. We'd still want some level of overall coordination - for instance, deciding what's release blocking would still be a wider discussion, but it might be possible for individual subcommunities to re-release based on -updates if they can obtain appropriate resources. The biggest problem I forsee in this situation is the perception that all other subcommunities are still to some extent second class citizens compared to the three Fedora products. The counterargument is that it gives them the opportunity to demonstrate that they're significantly better in a way that's currently impossible, and that may be enough to get people to change their minds as to future choices. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
