----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 05:05:37AM -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > > As a sidenote, in the FESCO notes there was a suggestion to the board to > > make a KDE spin blocking once we switch to the Products releases. I > > strongly object to this idea. It undermines the whole idea of having the > > product focus in the first place and creates a precedent for spins being > > more than unofficial community efforts to highlight various technologies > > and ideas. There is a proper plan and effort underway now in Fedora with > > the 3 products effort, lets stay the course and not water things down to a > > level where we are basically back to the bad old days. > > I think we can solve this by working more on what it means to be "blocking". > In the ideal future, I would like to get to the point where nothing is > blocking, because: > > a) We have continuous integration and testing such that we could ship at > any time if we decided to. > b) we loosen up the ability to ship different parts at different times > (even if mostly coordinated), so if some bug or upcoming new feature > point in Cloud means we're not ready until a couple of weeks after the > base release, it doesn't hold up Workstation. Remixes can already do > this _outside_ of the project and we could allow ourselves that luxury > inside too. > > A will take a lot of work, and B will take a lot of coordination and > planning, but I think we can eventually get there. In the meantime, I'm okay > with drawing the lines of what blocks the release like an asymmetrical > puzzle piece rather than a perfect regular polygon. It's a compromise, but I > don't think it's "going back to the bad old days" in the larger context. +1 There's a lot of work ahead of us to make Fedora agile to fulfil this vision, so focus on it - it can open more doors and give us more options in the future how to deal with releases, blocking stuff, products, spins, remixes etc. Jaroslav > -- > Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > "Tepid change for the somewhat better!" > _______________________________________________ > advisory-board mailing list > advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board _______________________________________________ advisory-board mailing list advisory-board@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board
